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Re:Breaking up with JavaScript front ends by arcturus17 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @03:30AM (#33941353)
I built my first website in the late 90's or very early 2000's - I can't even remember. I also think I knew what simple was when users wanted very little interaction. Then in the middle between then and now, building a website with jQuery was a nightmare. So pray, do tell, what you build your websites or web apps in.

> React is good and simple

I in particular never said it was simple. React, particularly in SPA form, starts creating challenges pretty early on in regards to state management and app architecture. But I have never seen solutions to build large SPAs that don't have pitfalls.

In the SSG/SSR realm, I'd argue Next.js is quite simple.

> don't compare to actual experience

> Some of us detractors have 15+ years doing stuff

> I do not like playing the experience card

> it just tells me they have no idea whatsoever

> it just has great marketing

> Sorry to the devs which are often here to PR

> the last 20% are really where the issues (bad docs, bugs, constant churn) lie.

About 80% of your comment is how much better, experienced and genuine you are than everyone else - as opposed to us schmucks you accuse of doing "PR", you are here to deliver simple, unadulterated truths. I would've engaged with any technical points you had made, but since there aren't many to speak of, I guess what's only left for me to say is that it's fantastic that you feel so good about yourself.

Re:Breaking up with JavaScript front ends by sph on Sunday December 11, 2022 @04:17AM (#33941573)
I did not mean to say you or any other Next.js users are doing PR.

I meant the actual Next.js core team.

I know that you are telling your unadulterated opinion, just like I am. I am not accusing you of lying, just disagreeing.