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Re:Apple to end employee gagging clauses after activist camp... by culi on Saturday December 10, 2022 @01:13AM (#33930393)
In this modern age we should be able to offer something like "micro-stocks" to customers. Like a "our product isn't there all the way there, but you use us because you believe in us so we promise that if we are successful we'll pay back the people that believed in us".

Even if the fractions are so small that it only amounts to cents, early supporters now have every incentive to tell ALL their friends about it and root for you however they can

As a customer you also get the piece of mind that later price changes won't be unfair to you. You know that you were somehow compensated for your early commitments. In fact you even stand to benefit from all the new customers price drops could be bringing in

Re:Apple to end employee gagging clauses after activist camp... by temp2022acc on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @12:33PM (#33972374)
This is usually how Cow Shares work; in practice it's closer to a deposit entitling you to benefits, which is probably the best type of contract for this situation.
Re:Apple to end employee gagging clauses after activist camp... by ycombobreaker on Saturday December 10, 2022 @10:29AM (#33933407)
If 500 customers did this, I think the SEC would label this as a "security" and the company would be required to register as a public company, more or less. This is essentially what happened to Facebook which led to them going public: the private equity pool became too diverse and triggered this threshold, so publicly listing made sense.

Why don't Kickstarter campaigns have this problem? AFAIK it's because they are just presales, there's no notion of ownership so they aren't treated as securities. A poorly-designed kickstarter that looked like micro stocks would probably get shot down.

Re:Apple to end employee gagging clauses after activist camp... by dontknowwhyihn on Saturday December 10, 2022 @01:34AM (#33930476)
If only there were some way to issue digital “tokens” in situations like this..
Re:Apple to end employee gagging clauses after activist camp... by culi on Saturday December 10, 2022 @01:42AM (#33930523)
one bitcoin transaction consumes 1,449 kWh, or about as much as 50 days of power for the average US household
Re:Apple to end employee gagging clauses after activist camp... by DavidPeiffer on Saturday December 10, 2022 @08:54AM (#33932617)
>one bitcoin transaction consumes 1,449 kWh

Thank you, I knew it was an energy hog, but had never looked at it this way.

That's enough electricity to melt 2 tons of aluminum, or about half an hour of peak production from an average size US wind turbine.

Re:Apple to end employee gagging clauses after activist camp... by laserlight on Saturday December 10, 2022 @02:49AM (#33930823)
Bitcoin is not the only digital token technology. Ethereum consumes a fraction of the energy Bitcoin consumes.
Re:Apple to end employee gagging clauses after activist camp... by culi on Saturday December 10, 2022 @04:13AM (#33931193)
Right Ethereum is really lucky to have Bitcoin around to make it look good. It (very recently) cut it's energy usage by ~99.84% yet one ETH transaction is still 50x the amount of energy as a MasterCard transaction
Re:Apple to end employee gagging clauses after activist camp... by laserlight on Saturday December 10, 2022 @07:04AM (#33931860)
Thanks for clarifying. This seems to be a better picture of reality compared to your previous comment.
Re:Apple to end employee gagging clauses after activist camp... by rightbyte on Saturday December 10, 2022 @04:06AM (#33931156)
You mean stocks?