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Re:Nobody is grasping the end of the 0 rates regime by oceanplexian on Friday December 09, 2022 @03:51PM (#33926330)
I think the poster is right but, the I have to laugh at statement that VC’s won’t be able to get a 4.5% return on their investment so why bother.

VS’s aren’t in the game for a 4%, 10%, or even 20% return. They’re investing in startups that have the potential to get something like 1,500% or 5,000% returns on their money and many times, they eventually succeed. Sure raising money in a high interest rate environment will be harder but it doesn’t kill the VC model at all.

Re:Nobody is grasping the end of the 0 rates regime by rufus_foreman on Friday December 09, 2022 @04:25PM (#33926613)
A 5,000% annual return on a million dollars for 10 years is $119,042,423,827,612,787,802,112.
Re:Nobody is grasping the end of the 0 rates regime by chewz on Friday December 09, 2022 @05:43PM (#33927398)
It is 5000% on single bet out of 100.. And 100% loss on other 96 bets... Which makes VC's return on total capital much smaller then 5000%..

But more important high discount rate means much shorter runway for startups.

Re:Nobody is grasping the end of the 0 rates regime by dragonwriter on Friday December 09, 2022 @06:44PM (#33928038)
> They’re investing in startups that have the potential to get something like 1,500% or 5,000% returns on their money and many times, they eventually succeed

And many, many, many more times they fail. The higher the risk-free interest rate, the higher the returns need to be to justify high-risk investment unless, like SBF, you simply eschew risk premiums. But most sane people, even VCs, aren’t that risk insensitive.