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Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by FPGAhacker on Thursday December 08, 2022 @09:03PM (#33916469)
What a useless distinction.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by insaneirish on Friday December 09, 2022 @12:07AM (#33917692)
It's not useless.

If the threat is that unloading a position will cause a dip in shareholder value of $X, but those actually in control believe their own thesis and operating model is worth more than $X, then they can choose to weather the storm, believing their way will negate the loss of $X.

If they really don't have an answer to the activist investor's thesis, then yea, they'll roll over.

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by cool_dude85 on Thursday December 08, 2022 @09:33PM (#33916674)
Seems pretty useful to me, as it accurately depicts who holds decisionmaking power and what the actual threat is.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by ggm on Friday December 09, 2022 @12:17AM (#33917776)
But it completely ignores the commercial reality: 10% of your holdings making a move is sometimes enough to swing a board decision. Look at AGL in Australia and the recent play by Grok ventures. Nothing like 50% + 1. They moved the mountain.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by s1artibartfast on Friday December 09, 2022 @01:27AM (#33918230)
You are conflating control with influence. Control is the ability to make a unilateral decision, consequences be damned. Influence is the ability to impose costs and benefits on a decision maker so that they do what you want
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by ggm on Friday December 09, 2022 @02:14AM (#33918535)
No disagree but also.. this is nitpicking. Everyone reading the flow knows what was meant here: change was effected by a significant minority of shareholders exerting influence. You would not be wrong saying colloquially "they were made to" or "had to" even though legally no force exists. Well clearly to a nitpicker you would be wrong, but half the room is now rolling their eyes.

Don't be that kid.

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by s1artibartfast on Friday December 09, 2022 @09:53AM (#33921811)
I don't think it is nitpicking. There are 40+ posts debating who has control and talking past eachother because they are using different definitions.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by sebzim4500 on Friday December 09, 2022 @09:09AM (#33921347)
Yes 10% of your company being sold at once would be alarming. Thing is TCI does not have anything like that much. They have ~0.5% of the equity and less than 0.5% of the votes.