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Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by AndrewKemendo on Thursday December 08, 2022 @04:28PM (#33913692)
That's not "another explanation" that's the exact dynamic:

TCI, who do not actually run the business, are threatening the CEO (addressed to Sundar) that they will move their money if Google doesn't do what they say - namely cut costs etc...

Is it more likely that TCI investors know how better to run Google than Google does or that they don't care and are blindly seeking alpha with no care for the people that run it?

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by michaelt on Thursday December 08, 2022 @04:34PM (#33913794)
To be fair, every single person on HN thinks they know how to run Google better than Google does.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by AndrewKemendo on Thursday December 08, 2022 @04:42PM (#33913929)
Yes, well luckily nobody on HN can compel Google to do anything differently.

This group of investors however can compel Google to do things differently and as George Carlin once said: "It's a big club, and you ain't in it"

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by ryanwaggoner on Thursday December 08, 2022 @05:19PM (#33914517)
There’s no evidence that this group of investors (who hold 0.5%) can compel Google’s management to do anything.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by bdavis__ on Thursday December 08, 2022 @09:08PM (#33916506)
That is business insight.

You can generalize that to say the average HN reader knows how to run anything better.

90% of management is equal to or worse than calling random() to make decisions. If the margins are large enough, and the competition is asleep, anyone can be a successful CEO.

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by BurningFrog on Thursday December 08, 2022 @05:23PM (#33914570)
Also most of the married people, I'd say!
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by extesy on Thursday December 08, 2022 @05:00PM (#33914231)
> TCI, who do not actually run the business, are threatening the CEO (addressed to Sundar) that they will move their money if Google doesn't do what they say - namely cut costs etc...

What does "move their money" technically mean in this situation? Google is not a bank, they don't keep TCI's money. Is this a threat of tanking the stock price by selling all $6B at once? TCI would hurt themselves too if they do that.

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by AndrewKemendo on Thursday December 08, 2022 @05:11PM (#33914398)
>What does "move their money" technically mean in this situation?

Sell GOOG and buy META (or whatever)

>Is this a threat of tanking the stock price by selling all $6B at once? TCI would hurt themselves too if they do that.

The act of liquidating their position is what reduces the price. So they drop their ask to the lowest bid price that liquidates their position net positive and in theory that action would cause a price cascade. It's a threat, not a guarantee.

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by UncleMeat on Thursday December 08, 2022 @06:58PM (#33915575)
6B in GOOG is $40,000 per employee. That's less than a year of equity refreshes for googlers.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by bdavis__ on Thursday December 08, 2022 @09:09PM (#33916520)
Meta is down. Maybe a time to buy. The sheep still are spending every waking hour on facebook.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by hexis on Thursday December 08, 2022 @05:01PM (#33914242)
TCI investors, among other people, are the literal owners of Alphabet. The CEO is an employee who takes direction from the owners.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by UncleMeat on Thursday December 08, 2022 @07:40PM (#33915932)
How much GOOGL do they own vs GOOG?

Larry and Sergey own 51% of GOOGL. Owning GOOG doesn't give you any control over the behavior of the company.

Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by hexis on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:34AM (#34052474)
Yeah, the tech stock games around ownership vs control are real, and it's unlikely that GOOG owners can assert direct control. Still, if the company fails to listen to GOOG owners, the price will drop, almost as a matter of course.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by netheril96 on Thursday December 08, 2022 @08:24PM (#33916193)
Well since you are ignoring the proportion of ownership, let me tell you I am also an owner of GOOG.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by hexis on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:33AM (#34052455)
Sure, and you get a vote. Same for me.
Re:Google combines Maps and Waze teams in restructuring move by xen0 on Thursday December 08, 2022 @05:23PM (#33914566)
> they will move their money if Google doesn't do what they say - namely cut costs etc...

Why would Google care? This fund owns Google stock; it isn't giving money to Google, it gave money to whoever it bought that stock from.

Selling a fraction of a percent of the total in the market might move the stock price a little, but probably not much.

'Moving their money' just means transferring that stock to someone else who may have more faith in the company's strategy.