Re:What comes up when you flush
by postscapes1 on Thursday December 08, 2022 @09:06AM
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I wish there were more modern thinkers like Zizek.
Is it supposed to float? I don’t think I’ve ever had a poo that floated.
Re:What comes up when you flush
by DonHopkins on Thursday December 08, 2022 @11:51AM
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You have your guts to thank for that.
Where's dang and his helpful links to recent relevant discussions when you need him? I'm happy to drop this in:
Why some feces float and others sink (phys.org)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33691619
https://phys.org/news/2022-11-feces.html
There needs to be another "fart content" dimension to the Bristol Stool Scale.
Re:What comes up when you flush
by nibbleshifter on Thursday December 08, 2022 @02:53PM
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In the old school German (and dutch) toilets, the shit lands on basically a shelf, for inspection.
You then flush it and it fucks off into the abyss.
The reason for the "poop inspection shelf" apparently was so you could take a quick look at your turd and see if it displayed signs of illness. Like say, blood.
Re:What comes up when you flush
by Der_Einzige on Thursday December 08, 2022 @02:24PM
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Zizek is fashionable nonsense and is a charlatan and hack at the same level as Jacques Lacan (who he also cites a lot)
Better to avoid their kind of drivel.
Re:What comes up when you flush
by nibbleshifter on Thursday December 08, 2022 @02:51PM
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Oh, the poop shelf, so you can examine your stool before you send it into the abyss.
They are also occurring in the Netherlands.
>Žižek on toilets. Slavoj Žižek during an architecture congress in Pamplona, Spain.
>The German toilets, the old kind -- now they are disappearing, but you still find them. It's the opposite. The hole is in front, so that when you produce excrement, they are displayed in the back, they don't disappear in water. This is the German ritual, you know? Use it every morning. Sniff, inspect your shits for traces of illness. It's high Hermeneutic. I think the original meaning of Hermeneutic may be this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneutics
>Hermeneutics (/ˌhɜːrməˈnjuːtɪks/)[1] is the theory and methodology of interpretation, especially the interpretation of biblical texts, wisdom literature, and philosophical texts. Hermeneutics is more than interpretive principles or methods we resort to when immediate comprehension fails. Rather, hermeneutics is the art of understanding and of making oneself understood.
>“In a traditional German toilet, the hole into which shit disappears after we flush is right at the front, so that shit is first laid out for us to sniff and inspect for traces of illness. In the typical French toilet, on the contrary, the hole is at the back, i.e. shit is supposed to disappear as quickly as possible. Finally, the American (Anglo-Saxon) toilet presents a synthesis, a mediation between these opposites: the toilet basin is full of water, so that the shit floats in it, visible, but not to be inspected. [...] It is clear that none of these versions can be accounted for in purely utilitarian terms: each involves a certain ideological perception of how the subject should relate to excrement. Hegel was among the first to see in the geographical triad of Germany, France and England an expression of three different existential attitudes: reflective thoroughness (German), revolutionary hastiness (French), utilitarian pragmatism (English). In political terms, this triad can be read as German conservatism, French revolutionary radicalism and English liberalism. [...] The point about toilets is that they enable us not only to discern this triad in the most intimate domain, but also to identify its underlying mechanism in the three different attitudes towards excremental excess: an ambiguous contemplative fascination; a wish to get rid of it as fast as possible; a pragmatic decision to treat it as ordinary and dispose of it in an appropriate way. It is easy for an academic at a round table to claim that we live in a post-ideological universe, but the moment he visits the lavatory after the heated discussion, he is again knee-deep in ideology.” -Slavoj Žižek