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Re:TSMC founder Morris Chang says globalization and free tra... by midoridensha on Thursday December 08, 2022 @12:32AM (#33904561)
Actually, gigantic container ships beat everything else, by a large margin, including trains. It's cheaper to ship stuff to California from China by ship than by train from the east coast states.

Automobiles are the worst and least efficient mode of transportation, and should be severely curtailed.

Re:TSMC founder Morris Chang says globalization and free tra... by Manuel_D on Thursday December 08, 2022 @12:52AM (#33904678)
Many train networks are electrified outside of north America. That's a different story especially in countries with lower carbon intensity of electricity.

But yes, on the whole it's correct that common assumption that the distance freight travels equates to the overall carbon intensity of transit is incorrect.

Re:TSMC founder Morris Chang says globalization and free tra... by uoaei on Thursday December 08, 2022 @08:30PM (#33916238)
I'm not sure what is meant by "beat" but if you're just talking about costs, then this is an irrelevant point. Rather, the effect of trade agreements is so substantial that cost per tonne shipped by no means reflects an equilibrium under free market conditions.