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Re:TSMC founder Morris Chang says globalization and free tra... by throwaway2037 on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @11:52PM (#33904324)
I like this comment. I do believe the global logistics industry will adapt to a low carbon future, rather than dismantle itself (and the world economy). In short, it is a death sentence for their business. And no business wants to go bankrupt, so they will adapt -- at least: try to.

Do you think ammonia or hydrogen is more likely to be used for ships? At this time, I am leaning towards ammonia because storage and infrastructure is simpler.

Funny side note: While writing this post, I was doing a bunch of Google searches about ammonia, hydrogen, and blue vs green. Every single search returned a single ad from Saudi Aramco touting their blue ammonia and hydrogen capabilities. Incredibly depressing. The non-petro states need to hurry up and cover the center 80% of Australia with solar panels (Chilean Andes and North Africa too) to produce whatever green industrial inputs we need from "thin air". Maybe we can run a bunch of carbon sequestration machines too. In parallel, we can drive up carbon taxes.

Re:TSMC founder Morris Chang says globalization and free tra... by Manuel_D on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @11:59PM (#33904371)
My perspective is that Ammonia is a storage mechanism for hydrogen. The question is more like cryogenic vs compressed air vs chemical (such as ammonia, or hydrogen peroxide). A bigger question is production: solar, hydro, and wind are probably cheapest for electrolysis. Thermochemical production may make sense for nuclear or geothermal based power. Maybe Iceland becomes a big gas station for transatlantic shipping, based on geothermal energy?
Re:TSMC founder Morris Chang says globalization and free tra... by throwaway2037 on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @08:35AM (#33968600)
I like your idea about Iceland. They are already a major aluminium smelting hub due to extremely cheap thermal energy.