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Re:Soil in Midwestern US is eroding 10 to 1k times faster th... by honkler on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @10:18PM (#33903721)
and modern society owes to dinosaur juice
Re:Soil in Midwestern US is eroding 10 to 1k times faster th... by efields on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @10:54PM (#33903950)
More than anything else.

If you took oil out of the meta, it’s not like humanity would die off. It’d just be very different. We’d still be thriving. We’d still likely have scientific breakthroughs that increase quality of life. It’d just be so very different.

Re:Soil in Midwestern US is eroding 10 to 1k times faster th... by Waterluvian on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @11:24PM (#33904135)
I don’t think it would be that different. I think the growth curve of our technology and population would have had a longer flat section.

Obviously this is a ridiculously complex thing to project, but the reason I’m skeptical is that without fossil fuels, there’s still far more energy available than we need.

Perhaps an argument could be made that fossil fuels are a distraction and we would have been naturally forced towards more sustainable options. …or we just get super good at burning trees.

Re:Soil in Midwestern US is eroding 10 to 1k times faster th... by pjc50 on Thursday December 08, 2022 @05:37AM (#33906438)
Overnight? We'd lose a lot of people during the transition war. If you took out natural gas overnight, half of Europe would start freezing to death. I don't think people appreciate how much the 20th century was the oil century.
Re:Soil in Midwestern US is eroding 10 to 1k times faster th... by cyber_kinetist on Thursday December 08, 2022 @09:31AM (#33908227)
By the way, most of the petroleum we use doesn't really come from dinosaurs. The consensus among researchers seem to be that it mainly comes from dead planton and algae that sunk to the bottom, although there are also some heterodox theories of abiotic oil formation as well. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum#Formation)