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Re:The mid in fake midcentury modern by logicalmonster on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @11:10AM (#33896039)
> Fascism via "vokisch" movements and ideas attempted to more or less co-opt and own romanticism, classicism, and other forms of non-"modernist" aesthetics.

In my opinion, it's not so much that "fascism" (sort of a useless label in today's world) has co-opted traditional aesthetics, it's that the left has run away from the actual concept of beauty.

As an example: look at the body positivity movement. Everybody, no matter how obviously repulsive, is celebrated as beautiful no matter what. They're not just having their dignity as people recognized which is a great thing, but their actual level of beauty. How can the concept of aesthetics exist in a realm where everything is automatically labelled as beauty?

To have beauty, some must be recognized as better than others.

Re:The mid in fake midcentury modern by trs8080 on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @01:03PM (#33897755)
"Body positivity" is not about labeling everything as beautiful but rather not labeling people who may not match traditional standards of beauty as "ugly."
Re:The mid in fake midcentury modern by throwaway4aday on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @01:41PM (#33898296)
Is this actually how it's practiced? I know this is the professed meaning of the term/movement but when it comes to the implementation it seems to be turning into something much different. Also, in this definition of beauty where do you draw the line for "ugly" or is it now a word without a meaning?
Re:The mid in fake midcentury modern by MSFT_Edging on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @03:37PM (#33899891)
I'm in a lot of these circles and usually it's exactly how it works.

You see a fat person, someone says they're beautiful.

Do you A: call them ugly to make them feel bad

or

B: keep moving.

The basis of body positivity is to help folks have less self hate while being like "wtf dude, don't be a dick" to the people constantly criticizing them.

Re:The mid in fake midcentury modern by throwaway4aday on Thursday December 08, 2022 @01:33PM (#33911343)
I don't think body positivity is needed for that, just manners. Is there actually a problem that is being solved by body positivity that can't be solved by just being polite?
Re:The mid in fake midcentury modern by ogogmad on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @04:18PM (#33900422)
I agree. It's a "live and let live" movement. Not some form of austere modernism.

Beauty of people is indeed subjective. Different ethnicities have different innate preferences.