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Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by InTheArena on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @06:14PM (#33888458)
Please bear in mind that the site this is on appears to be a Russian propaganda machine. This story may have some validity to it - I haven't investigated yet - but a quick browse of the front page consists primarily of anti-ukraine conspiracy pages.
Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by WarOnPrivacy on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @06:26PM (#33888542)
Not sure why you were downvoted. From what I can tell, you aren't wrong. The site has a history of alignment with Kremlin and Beijing interests. (ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone)

This particular story doesn't seem egregious however. Thinking the worst, I can speculate how it might support a western surveillance state narrative. A too often accurate narrative, unfortunately.

addendum: The columnist seems kind of colorful. ref: https://twitter.com/KitKlarenberg

My vibe is he pubs where he can and isn't uncomfortable with authoritarian groups. ref: https://muckrack.com/kit-klarenberg

Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by kornhole on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @08:31PM (#33889628)
The Grayzone is a fully independent reader funded site publishing articles that often challenge US and British government media stories. They have no affiliation or loyalty to China or Russia.
Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by InTheArena on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @03:13PM (#33899612)
untrue

Max Blumenthal (born December 18, 1977) is an American journalist, author and blogger who is the editor of The Grayzone website, which is known for spreading conspiracy theories and engaging in denial of atrocities committed by dictatorial regimes.[2][3][4][5][6] He was a writer for The Nation, AlterNet,[7] The Daily Beast, Al Akhbar, and Media Matters for America,[8][9] and has contributed to Al Jazeera English, The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times.[8] He has been a writing fellow of the Nation Institute.[10] He is a regular contributor to Russian state-owned Sputnik and RT, and has been accused of spreading Russian propaganda.[11][12][13]

Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by arminiusreturns on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @07:07PM (#33888929)
This is such a bullshit take on the GrayZone, which does great work (that yes, goes often against the mainstream views as force-shoved down peoples mind-throats). The fact that you then link Muckrack tells me you are not an honest actor, or interested in the truth.
Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by WarOnPrivacy on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @08:09PM (#33902778)
> This is such a bullcrap take on the GrayZone, which does great work (that yes, goes often against the mainstream views as force-shoved down peoples mind-throats).

I noted the site's history of publishing stories that aligned with Kremlin and Beijing interests - which is not any kind of comment of the quality of the content. It is interesting that you felt it was.

> The fact that you then link Muckrack tells me you are not an honest actor, or interested in the truth.

I keyworded the author's name on DDG and the Muckrack result popped up. That's my history with Muckrack. Their bio page had lots of sites where the author published; it listed more sites of publication than anyone else. That's why I linked it.

Based on this, you assert that I am dishonest and infer I am untruthful. Did you come to this conclusion because I failed to signal in a way that makes you feel safe?

Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by InTheArena on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @11:32AM (#33896368)
I'll stick with Wikipedia: Max Blumenthal (born December 18, 1977) is an American journalist, author and blogger who is the editor of The Grayzone website, which is known for spreading conspiracy theories and engaging in denial of atrocities committed by dictatorial regimes.[2][3][4][5][6] He was a writer for The Nation, AlterNet,[7] The Daily Beast, Al Akhbar, and Media Matters for America,[8][9] and has contributed to Al Jazeera English, The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times.[8] He has been a writing fellow of the Nation Institute.[10] He is a regular contributor to Russian state-owned Sputnik and RT, and has been accused of spreading Russian propaganda.[11][12][13]
Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by uoaei on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @01:01PM (#33897724)
Wikipedia is one of the main targets for astroturfing campaigns. You might as well be saying "I prefer to be propagandized"
Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by miguelazo on Sunday December 11, 2022 @11:39PM (#33950941)
Exactly! That skeeze Jimmy Wales is on record going after them himself.
Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by uoaei on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @01:00PM (#33897712)
> The site has a history of alignment with Kremlin and Beijing interests.

Critiques of US policy do not imply support for Russian or Chinese policy. Explanations of Russian or Chinese rationale in responses to US actions are not the same as condoning those responses.

Sun Tzu says, know your enemy; how can you know your enemy if you don't even know how they think? This kind of analysis is important for understanding how geopolitics proceeds, and quickly illuminates the ways that state actors act to prolong profitable conflicts, since the responses to certain actions are obvious and inevitable in the grand scheme.

Discomfort in the face of critique is not proof that those critiques are invalid...

I, for one, as a US citizen, would rather the US address its own issues so that others don't have standing to criticize its policies and actions. Obviating propaganda is way more effective than censoring it, and for these kinds of critiques almost surely improves quality of life and GDP for its own citizens.

Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by solarkraft on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @06:50AM (#33893321)
> Max Blumenthal (...) who is the editor of The Grayzone website (...) is a regular contributor to Russian state-owned Sputnik and RT

Oh well.

Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by miguelazo on Sunday December 11, 2022 @11:40PM (#33950948)
OMG, he contributed to Sputnik and RT? Totally a Kremlin asset. Can’t wait for all the CIA assets who contribute to VoA, NPR, etc. to get outed on Wikipedia too. Oh wait, but we’re the “good” guys, so it’s different, right? Right?
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Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by _kbh_ on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @07:05PM (#33888921)
> “ Alignment with Kremlin and Beijing interests"? Care to provide some evidence?

They hire a lot of people that used to work for Russian state sponsored propaganda outlets and have a harshly pro Russian view of the Ukraine war with literally 0 objective analysis.

Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by miguelazo on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @11:36PM (#33890666)
Objective to who, exactly? Care to name these people who supposedly worked for RT? Someone like Chris Hedges? The guy who worked for NYT and won a Pulitzer, but left because he got tired of the lies they were printing for the security state?
Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by _kbh_ on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @01:11AM (#33891196)
Objective to the truth is who, go find a retraction from them for anything regarding the war, or go find a single article of them calling out Russian war crimes we have caught on camera.

Speaking on the credibility for Russian “news outlets”, are you telling you seriously believe these stories are true?.

Ukraine using black magic battalions - RIA - https://www.newsweek.com/russian-media-accuse-ukraine-using-...

Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by anigbrowl on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @07:21PM (#33889045)
Go back to halfchan.
Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by miguelazo on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @06:45PM (#33888724)
"I haven't investigated yet". Clearly. As your attack on the site's credibility appears to be based on nothing more than their dogged questioning of the dominant US narrative about the US proxy war against Russia.
Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by InTheArena on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @07:46PM (#33889262)
Hello Margarita Simonyan.
Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by miguelazo on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @11:34PM (#33890654)
So clever you have to resort to attacking the commenter instead of the substance. Nice. Exactly like the people who claim the Grazyzone is a front for the Kremlin/Beijing/etc with zero evidence.
Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by InTheArena on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @11:29AM (#33896332)
Hmm. This poster uses the exact same arguments Margarita regularly makes on Russian "news" channels to justify the bombing of children, the rape and murder of women, the destruction of civilian infrastructure, and the other crimes against humanity that Russia is engaged with.

10/10 match.

As for the investigation, this is what it popped up with:

Max Blumenthal (born December 18, 1977) is an American journalist, author and blogger who is the editor of The Grayzone website, which is known for spreading conspiracy theories and engaging in denial of atrocities committed by dictatorial regimes.[2][3][4][5][6] He was a writer for The Nation, AlterNet,[7] The Daily Beast, Al Akhbar, and Media Matters for America,[8][9] and has contributed to Al Jazeera English, The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times.[8] He has been a writing fellow of the Nation Institute.[10] He is a regular contributor to Russian state-owned Sputnik and RT, and has been accused of spreading Russian propaganda.[11][12][13]

You choose to interpret pointing that out as an attack.

Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by miguelazo on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @12:42PM (#33897481)
Ooooh! He has contributed to Sputnik and RT! Must be a Kremlin spy, just like everyone who contributes to NPR and VoA is a CIA asset. Get a clue.
Re:Anomaly 6: Private spying firm targets global population ... by greenyoda on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @07:26PM (#33889093)
As an alternate source, here's a story that the WSJ did on Anomaly Six in 2020: https://archive.ph/lcuvc