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Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by lisper on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @04:41PM (#33887467)
EMDR looks mighty hinky to me.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11393607/

"In sum, EMDR appears to be no more effective than other exposure techniques, and evidence suggests that the eye movements integral to the treatment, and to its name, are unnecessary."

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Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by theGnuMe on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @05:15PM (#33887891)
That research is likely out of date.
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Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by lisper on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @08:26PM (#33889598)
Out of date does not necessarily mean wrong. If you want to challenge this result the burden is on you to cite some more recent work with different results.
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Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by theGnuMe on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @08:35AM (#33894149)
You can simply google more recent things dude. You picked an article from 2001. Try 2021 or 2022. Clearly you have an agenda.

But here's a case report showing a reduction in tics after EMDR.

https://ijponline.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13052-...

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Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by lisper on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @12:20PM (#33897126)
In a single patient. Published in the Italian Journal of Pediatrics, which is not exactly a top-tier journal.

If that's the best you've got, that makes me even more confident that EMDR is bogus.

> Clearly you have an agenda.

Indeed I do. My agenda is to seek the truth, and to debunk bogus scientific claims wherever I encounter them.

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Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by theGnuMe on Thursday December 08, 2022 @06:58AM (#33906937)
There is growing evidence that EMDR works. If you can't find any articles yourself and read the literature well then it is your loss.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.0218...

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Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by howinteresting on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @11:35AM (#33896441)
These days EMDR is a synecdoche for bilateral stimulation techniques. Eye movements aren't actually integral to EMDR.
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Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by lisper on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @12:23PM (#33897172)
That doesn't make it any less bogus.
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Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by howinteresting on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @12:41PM (#33897454)
There's plenty of anecdotal experience saying it's been helpful. I've tried it personally and I found it "too much" which is why I stopped.
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