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Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by zozbot234 on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @03:50PM (#33886838)
"Non-binary" is commonly described as a trans identity, and the word "trans" is etymologically related to "transition". If there really was nothing else to it than the truism that "gender is not merely a binary system but a spectrum", no one would be talking about non-binary as an identity of its own - since this has been a consensus POV for decades.
Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by Karawebnetwork on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @04:19PM (#33887206)
It is not tran[sition]gender. It is the "trans-" Latin prefix meaning "across", "beyond" or "on the other side of" + gender.

In other words, people who moved on from the gender assigned to them at birth.

Some non-binary people identify as transgender but not all of them do. Just like non-binary is both an umbrella term and a spicific gender identity, transgender is both an umbrella term and a specific gender identity. You'll often see the shorthand "trans*" to describe the umbrella term and the shorthand "enby" to describe the specific gender identity.

Examples of clear gender identities that are not used as umbrella terms are: trans women, trans men, genderfluid, agender, demigirl, etc.

Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by zozbot234 on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @04:31PM (#33887344)
> In other words, people who moved on from the gender assigned to them at birth.

Yes, and the Latin word trānseō (nominal form trānsitiō → English: transition) means exactly to "go on across", "go beyond". Trāns ("across, beyond") + eō, it ("I go, he/she/it goes") + tiō (→ English: "-tion"). It's a distinction without a difference.

Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by Karawebnetwork on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @04:51PM (#33887594)
My point is that they share a source and are siblings, but one is not the parent of the other. Being transgender is not about the medical or social transition, it is about how the person identifies.
Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by zozbot234 on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @05:03PM (#33887764)
> it is about how the person identifies.

What does it mean to "identify" with a claim about what society is like - namely that "binary" gender might be more of a spectrum, with weird liminal stages in-between? You've said that this is what "non-binary" is about. How does this even begin to square with all those other notions about gender identity being something exceedingly clearcut, that someone can base major life decisions on?