What in the Ethereum application ecosystem excites me

Re:What in the Ethereum application ecosystem excites me by nailer on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @08:46AM (#33879586)

The post you’re replying to discusses and measures centralisation.

I’m happy to discuss reliability but it doesn’t appear we’re having a conversation.

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Re:What in the Ethereum application ecosystem excites me by vlovich123 on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @09:07AM (#33879953)

I have no horse in this game but the Wikipedia page [1] doesn’t line up with the story you’re painting:

> On 30 April and 1 May, 2022, Solana experienced major outages due to being taken offline by bots.[18] On 1 June, 2022 Solana reportedly[19] suffered another outage due to a bug in how the blockchain processes offline transactions. On 1 October, 2022, the Solana network went down for 6 hours due to a single misconfigured node.

In a properly decentralized system, how does 1 misconfigured node take down the entire system? That looks like a single point of failure to me, something decentralized systems aren’t supposed to have. Can you elaborate how your distinguishing reliability and centralization in the context of single node failures?

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solana_(blockchain_platform)

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Re:What in the Ethereum application ecosystem excites me by nailer on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @09:28AM (#33880380)

Sure - it’s a bug, it’s been fixed. The issue occurred on 30 Sep and there’s a discussion here:

https://solana.com/news/09-30-22-solana-mainnet-beta-outage-...

That’s how software works. Things break. They particularly break at scale. Nobody’s done this before. If Eth was as busy it would break too.

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Re:What in the Ethereum application ecosystem excites me by kayamon on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @10:00AM (#33881015)

They have done it before -- Bitcoin existed first, and has kept clearing transactions every ten minutes since, and will continue to do so once Solana is long dead.

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Re:What in the Ethereum application ecosystem excites me by nailer on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @10:07AM (#33881155)

Bitcoin and Eth have nowhere near the usage of Solana.

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Re:What in the Ethereum application ecosystem excites me by snapcaster on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @11:28AM (#33882663)

and Solana has way less usage than the average postgres DB running webapp xyz

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Re:What in the Ethereum application ecosystem excites me by nailer on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @12:35PM (#33883923)

Nope: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33879077

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Re:What in the Ethereum application ecosystem excites me by snapcaster on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @01:25PM (#33884727)

I don't see how your link disputes my claim

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Re:What in the Ethereum application ecosystem excites me by nailer on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @03:13PM (#33886377)

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Re:What in the Ethereum application ecosystem excites me by TimJRobinson on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @10:10AM (#33881208)

Ethereum and Bitcoin don't break because they thought about "What happens if we get DDOS'd" and added a fee market, something Solana still hasn't properly addressed which is why it still falls over when attacked by spam.

A network falling over because of high usage or (in this case) one validator had a misconfigured node is extremely bad.

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Re:What in the Ethereum application ecosystem excites me by nailer on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @11:11AM (#33882339)

Eth and Bitcoin don't have high usage. And the issue with the single validator mentioned, as you'll be aware from reading https://github.com/solana-labs/solana/pull/28172, wasn't a design failure, but a software issue. Bitcoin and Eth have those too.

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