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Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by simiones on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @08:33AM (#33879377)
> Outright bans and persecution of homosexuality is relatively new.

In most of Europe at least, homosexuality could not be openly practiced for most of the middle ages. There were certain exceptions, but it was not generally considered acceptable, and it was persecuted by the church or other moral authorities, at the very least as ostracism if not outright legal punishments - usually seen as a deviant sexual act, which were also routinely punished. Since the states were far weaker than modern states, it wasn't as systematic and universal as the Nazis attempted, but it was still happening.

Even in societies we perceive as more open such as ancient Rome, homosexual acts were often not explicitly accepted as normal, except for some we today would (rightly) consider abhorrent - adult men having sex with teenagers, but never the other way around.

Re:Stop that It’s not Tourette’s but a new type of mass soci... by niom on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @08:45AM (#33879568)
Ancient acceptance of MSM generally depended on who did the penetrating, because in a nutshell penetrating was manly and A-OK while being penetrated (orally / anally / vaginally) was womanly and hence bad. MSM was an exercise of social power.