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Re:The Peking Duck Exception by Xamayon on Monday December 05, 2022 @12:41PM (#33868845)
In the case of botulism toxin, it's actually the opposite. The spores are extremely resistant to temperature, but the toxin can be destroyed by boiling at normal temp/pressure until all parts have been fully exposed to those temps. Other toxins are still an issue though, and many are heat resistant, so not a good idea to eat potentially contaminated foods.
Re:The Peking Duck Exception by thfuran on Monday December 05, 2022 @02:37PM (#33870703)
Botulinum toxin is even less heat resistant than that. Five minutes at 185 F will take care of it. Though boiling would certainly get the job done.
Re:The Peking Duck Exception by gspencley on Monday December 05, 2022 @03:25PM (#33871368)
Ah thanks! It's been a few years since I took a food handling safety course and I remembered Clostridium botulinum being called out as something that "heat won't kill" but you're right, it's the spores, not the toxin itself.

But yeah, as you also pointed out, bi-products that can cause illness are separate issues from "killing living organisms that cause illness", and heat is not always the magic solution. Heavy metal poisoning is another example of something that heat will not take care of.