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Re:Tesla Semi, a Deep Dive by ben_w on Monday December 05, 2022 @09:10AM (#33865838)
The problem with that, is that “Theranos makes compelling equipment even if it is a little rough around the edges. It's ok because it's a step in the right direction.” wasn’t true, and that’s why Elizabeth Holmes was convicted for fraud.

Now, I’m not happy that Tesla is still calling the driving assistance software “autopilot” given some governments are criticising this name choice as misleading, but it’s not like the (limited and not ready) software is completely fictional — it can actually get people from A to B by itself, even if though it really isn’t at the quality level where this is a generally wise replacement for most humans, but only for, e.g. impaired humans in a medical emergency and even then it’s really only sane on highways (old story, but probably still illustrative based on the published safety statistics): https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/aug/08/tesla-mod...

However, considering Tesla as an EV company rather than as an AI company: it does what it says on the tin. There’s no secret gasoline tank hiding inside the batteries.

Re:Tesla Semi, a Deep Dive by pclmulqdq on Monday December 05, 2022 @09:22AM (#33865968)
It was true. They had 2-3 working tests running on their machines by the end of the company. They sold over 100.

In my mind, this is the same as advertising "the human is only there for liability reasons" on an L2 ADAS system.

As to what Tesla is, the moment people accept that it's an EV company, I will be happy. The market currently does not, largely due to the insane promises of the company's CEO.

Let's not forget that Elizabeth Holmes was acquitted of defrauding patients. She was convicted of defrauding investors. What's the difference?

Re:Tesla Semi, a Deep Dive by avgDev on Monday December 05, 2022 @10:47AM (#33867142)
Theranos defrauded investors. Lied about their product and NEVER delivered on what was promised.