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Re:The Twitter Files by evrydayhustling on Friday December 02, 2022 @09:37PM (#33839896)
You do realize this was the Trump Whitehouse? and that both Trump's campaign team and White House staff made requests that were honored? And that when Biden's team asked for the reviews it was not the executive branch?
Re:The Twitter Files by Dem_Boys on Friday December 02, 2022 @09:47PM (#33839978)
Yep! Dont really care who's in the White House in this instance.

I referenced the Biden team's verbiage because that's the only verbiage that was posted with the implied intent on getting tweets removed (besides the DNC). I'd love to see the email's from the White House asking for tweets to be removed.

Re:The Twitter Files by romellem on Saturday December 03, 2022 @01:17AM (#33841167)
I wonder why these Twitter Files didn’t include any partial emails from Trump’s staff, only the DNC where they expedited a ToS violation review.

Oh wait, it’s because clearly this information from a “Twitter source” (aka Elon) is disseminated with a viewpoint and is hardly impartial.

All of this should be viewed with extreme skepticism, and so far none of this seems damning in any way. I haven’t seen anything that says Elon is remotely operating in good faith.

Re:The Twitter Files by oceanplexian on Saturday December 03, 2022 @04:17AM (#33842044)
If you look at the totality of the circumstances it’s pretty obvious they were playing favorites. Everyone here is acting like there needs to be a smoking gun but that’s not how things work.

Of their employees that made political donations, >99% donated to the DNC. The people making moderation decisions at Twitter have made their political affiliations clear. On the eve of an election, they removed a story that was unfavorable to one candidate in an unprecedented way, using tools and processes they would use for sex trafficking and child pornography, to the the point where they deleted people’s DM’s referencing a story about a political candidate.

I’m not a lawyer and can’t say if it violated the law, but it’s certainly unethical. If you want to talk about reasons our country is so politically divided, this is a prime example of people in tech using every scrap of power to put their thumb on the scale that is the democratic process.

Re:The Twitter Files by evrydayhustling on Friday December 02, 2022 @10:05PM (#33840123)
I suspect some of these slimy outcomes (parties and offices having special access to request review) are pretty hard to avoid in practice. Like, if you know for a fact that there will be illegal actors targeting both campaigns, do you not listen to direct requests from the targets? And if you offer it to one side, would you offer it to all? I bet there are more principled ways to do it but I also think this is what it would like if a reasonably well intentioned but also selfish / risk averse staff tried to react in realtime to a really new situation.
Re:The Twitter Files by Karunamon on Saturday December 03, 2022 @09:23AM (#33843672)
Transparency would go a long way. The fact that all of this is happening behind closed doors means that the process is just begging for abuse.
Re:The Twitter Files by dmix on Friday December 02, 2022 @11:03PM (#33840463)
The power structures in society having arbitrary influence is what matters. A c-tier candidate would never have the same pull as not-yet elected Biden. Nor would a controversial candidate even from a popular party.

The only solution is to not provide the power in the first place instead of trying to fix it with layers of easily bypassed rules. You can’t have easy censorship if there isn’t an established censorship system already in place.

A system that is limited by law and very fundamental policies is much less prone to abuse (ie, a constitutional republic with transparent but limited policy making power vs monarchical systems with backroom dealing by elites). The minute it became about broadly policing speech via backroom dealing was the minute it became wide open to abuse.

Re:The Twitter Files by ModernMech on Sunday December 04, 2022 @10:04AM (#33854293)
> You can’t have easy censorship if there isn’t an established censorship system already in place.

This creates a new kind of abuse. If Twitter has no way of removing illegal content from its platform, then your opponent can use that fact to post illegal content about you (i.e. hacked pictures of your naked body), and you have no recourse.

Re:The Twitter Files by agrippanux on Friday December 02, 2022 @11:11PM (#33840503)
Also that the tweets the Biden team asked to be reviewed violated Twitter TOS for revenge porn.