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Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by 2-718-281-828 on Thursday December 01, 2022 @11:07AM (#33818173)
I'll rather hang myself then going to a nursery home now and even more so in the future. I'm living a happy life and looking forward to tomorrow - and yet I am dead serious about that. I've seen enough people in those places. Did you notice that one thing you learned while growing up and maturing was that you started to notice when the party is over and it's time to leave instead of hanging on until the very dire end - it's the same thing with life.

Also neither is yourself getting children or other people getting some a guarantee for a dignified existence in a future nursery home nor is such utilitarian thinking a good basis for deciding on whether or not to bring someone into the world.

Humans will eventually go the way of the Dodo - and that's okay. Because we are not special. Not at all.

Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by notch656a on Thursday December 01, 2022 @11:11AM (#33818235)
Something like 95% of suicides fail and then they'll toss you into a home or someplace terrible to keep you from doing it again.
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by hungryforcodes on Thursday December 01, 2022 @11:25AM (#33818454)
So I have to suffer a lifetime of kids just for this vague possibility? No thanks.
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by hungryforcodes on Friday December 02, 2022 @02:12PM (#33835308)
Not to belabor this point, nor reply to myself. But my mom is 85 and totally capable of shopping and helping herself and her brother just died at 91. He was also capable of doing basically anything you would need to survive daily.

I remember visiting for the first time my great grandmother when I was 6 years old. She was 99. When she saw her great grandson topless with shorts (hey it was the tropics) she reached forward and gave me a massive purple nurple and laughed. She was still shopping daily and moving around.

So I'm not really sure what scare mongering tactics in favour of parenting you are trying to propagate here.

Don't have kids just because you are expecting them to take care of you in old age. That's just cruel.

Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by throwawaydad12 on Thursday December 01, 2022 @02:06PM (#33821021)
The situation is a bit more complex than that, but in any case, that's a rather weak rationale for not committing suicide.

Here is a better reason: You'll be dead quite soon in any case, so unless you're in agony, you may as well enjoy your final days here. Think of some of your favorite activities and pick one. Rinse and repeat.

Sound shallow? Maybe, but I've spent an awful lot of time contemplating the question.

Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by notch656a on Thursday December 01, 2022 @02:12PM (#33821122)
Sorry if I did a poor job of conveying, but my comment was never intended to rationalize committing suicide or not committing suicide. It was to illustrate society generally doesn't respect these wishes, that these wishes often fail, and that ending up in an institution staffed by our juniors may be less of our own choice than we may think.
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by throwawaydad12 on Thursday December 01, 2022 @03:00PM (#33821867)
Agree. Ending up in a situation where suicide was not possible is probably one of my greatest fears.
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by cpsns on Thursday December 01, 2022 @02:55PM (#33821796)
Assisted suicide (death in friendlier terms) like we have in Canada is only going to become more permissive and other pleases will continue to adopt such laws.

In the future when people have real options this is less likely to be an issue.