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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by m463 on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @09:26PM (#33811516)
You seem to be arguing that only apple (or google) has the ability to protect your device.

Honestly, the best protection would be the ability to control your own device, and make apple just one of many ways to help you secure it.

I would love to be able to firewall my device. To see what apps are doing and to prevent them from doing things you don't like. Then you can trust but verify.

By the way, apple does TONS of stuff behind your back - rapant telemetry, allowing and even helping with tracking, and doing its own advertising. Look at deep linking, iBeacon, and lots of other silly things.

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by surajrmal on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @10:09PM (#33811833)
One of the problems with giving users access means that they can forward such access to malicious actors. It's a tough choice and perhaps not the right one for some, but I think preventing people from shooting themselves in the foot is the right call for many. Many do not understand the consequences of their actions and will readily grant access incorrectly.

While I agree that a single company shouldn't be unilaterally in charge of controlling access on behalf of users, I would say the industry doesn't do a good job of coming together to produce an option that works. Look at the software supply chain as an example of what tends to happen. The Linux distros do a pretty good job, but they maintain far fewer packages and getting your application into a distros repos isn't trivial.

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by fingerlocks on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @11:03PM (#33812173)
> Look at deep linking, iBeacon, and lots of other silly things.

iBeacon is 1-way read-only. Deep Linking is an app url scheme. Not much to look at.

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by m463 on Thursday December 01, 2022 @06:30PM (#33824592)
you don't know what they do because apple does not allow introspection into the device you own.

afaict ibeacon allows apps to locate bluetooth beacons. think department store beacons and department store app. deep linking allows apps to (silently) intercept email/browsing/messages with specific urls. all of them and other schemes let apps wake up in the background.

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by simondotau on Thursday December 01, 2022 @12:49AM (#33812831)
> You seem to be arguing that only apple (or google) has the ability to protect your device.

Hey yeah, let’s all return to the golden era where everyone installed Symantec Norton Utilities and AVG antivirus on their computers and hoped for the best.

I’m aware about all of the known telemetry on iPhone and literally none of it is an issue for me. Collecting data is not an issue, especially when such collection can help make a product or service better. How data is used is the issue, and in this respect I’m unaware of any major tech companies whose hands are cleaner than Apple’s.

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by geocar on Thursday December 01, 2022 @09:09AM (#33816392)
> You seem to be arguing that only apple has the ability to protect your device.

Erm. They make the hardware, so any bugs they put in there are what they are.

I don't see any reason to let more people put bugs in there.