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Re:Why We Haven’t Met Any Aliens by freshhawk on Thursday December 22, 2011 @02:52AM (#3380809)
> We start destroying the environment,

> somebody notices, we start pulling back

> on our rampant destruction enough to keep

> things operating

We did? That's great news. It must be recent though, so far i've only heard a lot of talk and a few useless feel good activities for guilty first worlders to distract themselves with like recycling their pop cans.

As far as self correction goes, the only thing any species has proved to be good at long term is going extinct.

Re:Why We Haven’t Met Any Aliens by eru on Thursday December 22, 2011 @03:05AM (#3380834)
Locally, rich countries are actually quite good at cleaning up. As an example, compare England today with England 150 years ago.
Re:Why We Haven’t Met Any Aliens by freshhawk on Thursday December 22, 2011 @03:14AM (#3380850)
Unfortunately that's mostly accomplished through economic means of displacing the mess to poorer places. Our actual levels of consumption and destruction globally has only increased.
Re:Why We Haven’t Met Any Aliens by eru on Thursday December 22, 2011 @03:29AM (#3380871)
As another example: China is now starting to clean up. They won't be able to displace the mess to poorer places, because the country is just so big that there just aren't enough poorer places left to take all the mess. I am confident the Chinese will be able to clean up their country.
Re:Why We Haven’t Met Any Aliens by freshhawk on Thursday December 22, 2011 @04:16AM (#3380958)
I think they will as well. India will shortly have to address this seriously and probably will.

That covers the types of pollution and over-consumption that are a visible and immediate threat, like dumping toxic waste in rivers and highly toxic air pollution.

There has been no serious willingness to address the issues of the increase in per-captia consumption of finite resources.

I was really taking issue with the statement that humans will be the first species that does not reproduce and consume as much as it possibly can before partial or complete extinction. That somehow humans will naturally reign in their natural impulses before it becomes too dangerous. That statement is based on zero evidence. We think we are the exception, humans are good at that, individually and collectively. Here's hoping.

Re:Why We Haven’t Met Any Aliens by eru on Thursday December 22, 2011 @06:52AM (#3381235)
Which resource(s) do you think we might run out of?
Re:Why We Haven’t Met Any Aliens by JonnieCache on Thursday December 22, 2011 @06:14AM (#3381160)
At least we don't dump our shit in the streets any more though.

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