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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by KoftaBob on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @03:55PM (#33807526)
Shouldn't this provide even more motivation for companies like Spotify to invest in a high quality Progressive Web App that can be installed to phones, bypassing the app store entirely?
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by _-david-_ on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:30PM (#33810411)
PWAs on iOS have certain limitations. I am not sure if Spotify could fully recreate their app. Even if they could, it isn't really the easiest thing for the average person. Everybody knows how to install an app. How many people know how to install a PWA on their phone?
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by prettychill on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @09:43PM (#33811667)
Isn't the argument to add sideloading / other stores to ios? How does installing an alternate store to get a cheaper spotify app compare to installing a PWA?
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by _-david-_ on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @10:34PM (#33812013)
>Isn't the argument to add sideloading / other stores to ios?

Yes, but the person I was responding to was talking about PWAs.

>How does installing an alternate store to get a cheaper spotify app compare to installing a PWA?

If you can install an alternative app store through Apple's app store the learning curve might be lower, but I'm not sure. Ultimately none of this would be an easy thing for most users.

I think the best solution would be to require Apple to allow repositories (like Fdroid and Linux have) to their store. The end user wouldn't have to learn anything new since the app store would be the same.

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by satvikpendem on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:33PM (#33811049)
The same PWAs which Apple restricts on iOS because they know it would cut into their App Store cashflow? If it were an equal market, I'd agree with you, but the OS makers also make and prioritize their own application stores too, so of course they'd want to cut down other competitive avenues.
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by scarface74 on Thursday December 01, 2022 @04:12AM (#33814034)
I keep hearing this very bad excuse. If that’s the only reason that developers make iOS apps, where are the developers who are making iOS apps and just telling Android users to go to the web?
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by satvikpendem on Thursday December 01, 2022 @11:57AM (#33819018)
How is it a "bad excuse?" it's literally true that Apple hobble PWAs compared to other platforms.
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by scarface74 on Thursday December 01, 2022 @12:45PM (#33819708)
Then why aren’t developers eschewing the Google Play Store and just telling users to use their website?
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by satvikpendem on Thursday December 01, 2022 @12:55PM (#33819885)
Some revenue is better than no revenue. Doesn't mean some people can't be annoyed at what's basically a startup tax levied on them.
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by scarface74 on Thursday December 01, 2022 @01:07PM (#33820068)
What do you mean “some revenue”? The question is if PWAs are good enough on every other platform, why spend the development time and money to create apps?

And most startups are creating B2B services where you pay for the service outside of the App Store.

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by satvikpendem on Thursday December 01, 2022 @01:10PM (#33820125)
Actually you might be right, PWAs are insufficient on every platform, at least the major ones I've tried.
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by KoftaBob on Friday December 02, 2022 @06:49AM (#33829312)
How are PWAs restricted/limited on iOS, outside of the current limitations of PWAs themselves? Genuinely curious.