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Re:Intentionally Making Close Friends by TheOtherHobbes on Monday November 28, 2022 @04:52PM (#33780351)
There is no shortage of people hoping and dreaming about relationships.

The number of people willing to move out of their comfort zone to make a good relationship possible - of any type - is much smaller.

Re:Intentionally Making Close Friends by alar44 on Monday November 28, 2022 @06:10PM (#33781212)
That may be, but it has nothing to do with "hookup culture" which is just nonsense.
Re:Intentionally Making Close Friends by deltaseventhree on Monday November 28, 2022 @11:55PM (#33783848)
Hook up culture is made up of lots of woman and a few men.

The women are desperately searching for a relationship. The few men involved with hook up culture have too many options are unwilling to commit due to overwhelming supply.

There are two reasons for why it's like this. The first reason is dating apps. Dating apps make it very easy for women to be even more selective then they already are.

The second reason is technology. The rise of technology including tampons and birth control has allowed women to fight for additional rights and come onto equal standing with men. For most of human history women depended on men for financial well being and survival in general. This is no longer the case.

Thus when being in a LT relationship isn't a survival requirement, women upgrade their selectivity.

The experience for the majority of men really just ends up being a lack of matches. The experience for women is a lack of men willing to commit. And for a few men (you most likely) hooking up is just "comfortable."

I'm not making this up. There is very real data about this.

Re:Intentionally Making Close Friends by FeistySkink on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @09:06AM (#33787715)
Perhaps you can share the data?
Re:Intentionally Making Close Friends by leobg on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @03:37AM (#33798343)
You forget that this cuts both ways. Men, too, no longer need a wife. No need to cook. No need to mend clothes. No need for heirs. So little patience for compromise. And focus on superficialities and short term benefits rather than team building.
Re:Intentionally Making Close Friends by deltaseventhree on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @11:55AM (#33803534)
men never needed this. The things you describe are luxuries that a man can do without. Men would like to have this but this is not something needed.

In the past women, NEEDED men to survive. For women it was a choice about survival. It was always men who went out to hunt for food, farm for food, make the money and build the house. All the technology, all the machinery, all the science you see around you today, most of it was built, designed and envisioned by men.

In general human civilization and societies functioned in a way where men and women worked together but make no doubt about it. For the majority of human history (99%) men did built and maintained the infrastructure for survival. Men worked in partnership with women for betterment and higher productivity; women however worked with men because they needed to survive. A woman without a man in the past had few options to support herself.

This is no longer the case, so we'll see how it plays out, but modern society is at odds with the biology millions of years of evolution has designed us for. Likely there will be a culling. A natural selection process where a huge portion of the genetic pool will fail to reproduce.

To be frank I think a lot of men will just end up being lonely and single until they're dead. Polygamy will become more and more normalized and women will have a lot more power over society and societal norms in general.

Re:Intentionally Making Close Friends by leobg on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @02:27PM (#33806211)
I don’t think that women in general give up on a relationship any faster or easier than men do. In fact, I would probably say that it’s men who give up first when things get tough. (It’s only that women notice problems sooner, while men often are still in denial and think all is fine.)

Saying that technology is the reason why relationships no longer work sounds like a big fat excuse to me. The facts are certainly true. But the conclusion is, in my opinion, a convenient tale to avoid responsibility.