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Re:Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby by darklajid on Wednesday December 21, 2011 @09:45AM (#3377626)
German counter point:

Give me something that is _fun_ and/or _interesting_ and I'm happily spending a big amount of time on it - and in fact, I did that in Germany as well, laws or not.

I'm not sure I'd sign something that says "You're required to put in these hours".

The compensation is completely open - I don't know if these people are payed as junior developers or trainees/interns etc.. - I guess that factors into the equation.

My gripe: I'd expect these 24 people to work on actual products (otherwise I'd question the teaching/mentoring method), so to me it seems the company is getting a temporary team, possibly for cheap.

If I'd be younger, w/o a significant other and - well - applicable (I assume this is for US residents only) I'd apply anyway, though...

Re:Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby by sdoering on Wednesday December 21, 2011 @10:33AM (#3377792)
As said in another comment, I understood a little bit more after another explenation.

I did a lot more hours for projects, that were quite fun for me, while doing everything I could, to make sure our "customers" (as it was an paid event, but in a hobby-environment i wrote the "") had an exeptional time.

So yeah, I'm totally OK, with working long hours. But not, if a boss "just" demands it.