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Re:North Korean ICBM launch detected using GPS by bmitc on Sunday November 27, 2022 @03:58PM (#33766874)
I have been wondering: is North Korea an example of sanctions not working or having the opposite effect? By sanctioning North Korea to the moon and back, they have no other choice but to bottle up, tighten the hatches, take an authoritarian stance, deal with people willing to do deals under the table, and search for ways to strike back. Since they don't have the capability of building a traditional military force, they go for the biggest thing they can: nuclear missiles. Meanwhile, their people starve and suffer.

Are there not alternative policies that would work a little better? North Korea just seems like a cornered badger and will continue to act like one. If you "opened" up the country by reducing some sanctions, it seems they'd have to adapt to be more civilized. These are more questions than statements.

Re:North Korean ICBM launch detected using GPS by avereveard on Sunday November 27, 2022 @04:23PM (#33767132)
We tried detente and appeasement various times and at various stages, it usually doesn't work
Re:North Korean ICBM launch detected using GPS by bmitc on Sunday November 27, 2022 @05:23PM (#33767644)
What is the end game with North Korea though? It seems the only options are:

* It collapses on its own or there's an internal revolution or coup. This would be a mess though because of the whole China, Russia, South Korea claims probably.

* It does something drastic and attacks and then gets invaded. That also seems a mess because now it's China, Russia, South Korea, and the U.S. and maybe Japan, depending on who it attacks.

Re:North Korean ICBM launch detected using GPS by avereveard on Monday November 28, 2022 @02:11AM (#33770582)
It's complicated because states diplomacy exists in a condition of pure anarchy, but "disarmament in exchange of security guarantees" is another option.

One might draw parallel with Ukraine, which is fair, but turns out it wasn't USA the untrustworthy party to the agreement, and they didn't get a defensive alliance out of it, which showed to be a necessity and raises the bar considerably