Re:Ask HN: Can we delete our accounts?
by philwelch on Sunday November 27, 2022 @02:20PM
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That still doesn’t account for the stylometry.
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Re:Ask HN: Can we delete our accounts?
by matrix_overload on Sunday November 27, 2022 @02:34PM
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It does if the content from ALL deleted users gets merged under the same metauser. Stylometric average of all deleted users' comments is pretty useless.
Re:Ask HN: Can we delete our accounts?
by MerelyMortal on Sunday November 27, 2022 @02:25PM
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Yes it does, not everyone gets a unique "deleted" account. Everyone's comment gets attributed to a single special "deleted" account.
Re:Ask HN: Can we delete our accounts?
by someweirdperson on Sunday November 27, 2022 @02:39PM
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Or a different deleted_user_<random or hash of post> for every post.
But as the sibling post says... it doesn't solve anything.
The problem still remains: HN’s “API” is incredibly simple and people have full datasets downloaded locally for every comment. In this case, the OP is already out of luck if he’s looking for anonymity against a hostile entity.
Re:Ask HN: Can we delete our accounts?
by MerelyMortal on Sunday November 27, 2022 @02:37PM
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That problem seems like an extreme outlier. Such user protection would prevent "crimes of opportunity". The average person is not going to have a constant backup of HN in case one day they might want to spy on someone's past.
Re:Ask HN: Can we delete our accounts?
by AnimalMuppet on Sunday November 27, 2022 @03:06PM
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And if they do, they're likely to start with Twitter or Facebook - something useful against more of the population. HN users are still very much a minority.
The problem doesn’t appear to be that much of an extreme outlier, the thread poster is concerned about a specific tool. That tool has already downloaded the complete data set, he’s already lost.
Re:Ask HN: Can we delete our accounts?
by MerelyMortal on Sunday November 27, 2022 @03:17PM
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And there's no guarantee that service will stay around, or that they won't accept requests. I still think it's worthwhile to reduce the attack surface.
Re:Ask HN: Can we delete our accounts?
by naniwaduni on Sunday November 27, 2022 @03:00PM
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Nothing going forward can help in that case, but we can still weigh impact on other threat models going forward.
"We refuse to help because it's a mild inconvenience to us and we'll justify it by assuming that it won't help without knowing for a fact that it won't."
That's a fascinating stance that you've outlined and that others have parroted. A stance that HN has implied with the reply to OP.
I’m not in charge of anything at HN, so how can my statement say HN won’t do something?
Not completely. For example, if the analyst has a large corpus from someone's main account to build up a profile, it seems plausible to me that they could identify individual comments under the "deleted" user as being written by the same person using a throwaway account, especially if they have a distinctive writing style.
Re:Ask HN: Can we delete our accounts?
by someweirdperson on Sunday November 27, 2022 @02:40PM
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I doubt a single post provides a sufficient amount of information for that.
Re:Ask HN: Can we delete our accounts?
by philwelch on Sunday November 27, 2022 @02:45PM
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So you run the stylometric analysis on each comment to cluster them into inferred user profiles.
Re:Ask HN: Can we delete our accounts?
by MerelyMortal on Sunday November 27, 2022 @02:51PM
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I'm okay with someone attempting to do that. I imagine it would be extremely fuzzy and not successful.