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Re:ISO C is increasingly moronic by bhurt on Tuesday December 20, 2011 @05:26PM (#3375475)
The C standards committee has been broken since C99 introduced long long, thus silently breaking conforming code.

How do you print out a size_t, portably, without losing information? The standard says size_t is an unsigned integer type, but doesn't say way size. However, the C89 spec explicitly stated that there are no integers sizes longer than long- so the conforming way to do this is to explicitly cast the size_t to unsigned long (which, while it may add bits, is guaranteed not to lose them), and print the unsigned long.

In an attempt to save all the broken, non-conforming code that assumed that sizeof(int) == sizeof(long), C99 introduced the long long type. And, among other things, allowed size_t to now be unsigned long long. Which meant the conforming C89 code that wants to print out a size_t is now wrong. Worse yet, it's silently broken- because the type cast is explicit, the compiler has to assume it's correct. They added a new way to print size_t's, granted- but this is no help for the legacy code (or code that needs to continue to support C89-only compilers).

Of course, the punchline here is that I have yet to see code that assumed sizeof(int) == sizeof(long) that didn't also assume sizeof(void *) == sizeof(int). So all that broken non-conforming code they were trying to save? It still needed to get fixed for 64-bit.

Re:ISO C is increasingly moronic by phkamp on Tuesday December 20, 2011 @05:33PM (#3375500)
You overlook the %z printf specifier which attempts, but not quite solves the problem, because size_t comes in both a signed (ssize_t) and unsigned (size_t) variant.

I usually end up doing printf("%j", (intmax_t)foo);

Re:ISO C is increasingly moronic by haberman on Tuesday December 20, 2011 @07:26PM (#3375841)
> because size_t comes in both a signed (ssize_t) and unsigned (size_t) variant.

ssize_t is not ISO C. Also, %z is a modifier, not a specifier, so you can print size_t with %zu, or ssize_t with %zd.

Re:ISO C is increasingly moronic by to3m on Tuesday December 20, 2011 @06:28PM (#3375671)
Won't "%zu" vs "%zd" do the trick? `z' is a modifier, like `l'.

(That said, I've only ever used %zu myself... don't think I've ever used ssize_t. I'm pretty sure it's non-ISO.)

Re:ISO C is increasingly moronic by caf on Tuesday December 20, 2011 @07:15PM (#3375801)
It does (other variants like `%zx` are also fine).