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Re:Redox OS 0.8.0 by edent on Saturday November 26, 2022 @02:36AM (#33750706)
It is just you.

Has that money come from a sanctioned person? Is it a drug dealer trying to launder funds? Is it from a hostile state? Is it really a bribe? Is it a mistake?

When the auditors (or worse) come knocking, you want to be able to account for the source of funds in your projects.

Re:Redox OS 0.8.0 by js4ever on Saturday November 26, 2022 @02:41AM (#33750719)
Unless you have a proof that the money come from illegal source can't you consider it innocent? Presumption of innocence ...
Re:Redox OS 0.8.0 by tadfisher on Saturday November 26, 2022 @02:45AM (#33750735)
That is how you land in court in a case titled *United States v $400,000 in digital currency".
Re:Redox OS 0.8.0 by throwme_123 on Saturday November 26, 2022 @02:56AM (#33750786)
In which the main problem here is "United States", not the digital currency donation.

US agencies have too many overreaching regulations like the OFAC one, together with a lot of fake regulations.

The SEC was close to FTX and totally blind to the whole fraud operation that was going on. Likewise, many things in traditional finance markets (debt collaterization, etc.) are legal and regulated, but they're often nothing else but outright scams.

Re:Redox OS 0.8.0 by tadfisher on Saturday November 26, 2022 @03:48AM (#33751094)
I agree with your first point, but I don't think OFAC is the problem here; civil asset forfeiture is what I was describing. In this case, it's not an obvious nor historical requirement that a charitable organization must perform AML/KYC on their donors; however, the use of Tornado gives an ambitious prosecutor the necessary pretext to seize the funds in a civil action.
Re:Redox OS 0.8.0 by js4ever on Saturday November 26, 2022 @04:10AM (#33751184)
So seizing the money without any proof of it being illegal? How fair is it?
Re:Redox OS 0.8.0 by snapplebobapple on Saturday November 26, 2022 @10:59AM (#33753677)
It's totally unfair, which is why it must be made completley illegal as something available for the government to do, but this is really hard to do because government is full of money grubbing authoritarians and the electorate isn't pissed enough about this generally yet to make it a bipartisan supported issue where if you support this you don't get elected (which tells us more about the reasoning ability of the electorate than anything). It's an utter travesty that your assets are guilty until proven innocent these days in the USA and that this is infecting other places such as Canada as well.
Re:Redox OS 0.8.0 by tadfisher on Saturday November 26, 2022 @03:48AM (#33751098)
Re:Redox OS 0.8.0 by konart on Saturday November 26, 2022 @04:43AM (#33751342)
Breaking Bad taught me you have to be extra cautious with the US tax\finance system.

Also from other source it sounds like when it comes to money it's rather "presumption of guilt" where you have to prove the source of your income is legal etc.

Re:Redox OS 0.8.0 by sangnoir on Saturday November 26, 2022 @02:02PM (#33755539)
> Unless you have a proof that the money come from illegal source can't you consider it innocent?

Tornado Cash is a sanctioned entity. Author knows the money came through Tornado. That information is sufficient to potentially make accepting the donation criminal, regardless of whether the original source of funds is a privacy-conscious, legit crypto investor, or a ransomware group in North Korea.