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Re:KDE runs on the Apple M2 (with full GPU acceleration) by Kuinox on Friday November 25, 2022 @06:48PM (#33748260)
There was ARM laptops before M1, nobody wanted them. M1 was ahead because it was 1 silicon node ahead for a year. The competition already caught back:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/power_performance.html

Re:KDE runs on the Apple M2 (with full GPU acceleration) by wizee on Friday November 25, 2022 @07:20PM (#33748468)
That comparison chart is not very accurate. The Core i7-1250U CPUMark score of 13453 is at 29W (TDP up), not 9W (TDP down), so the performance per watt ratio they're using is inaccurate. Also, if you look at the CPUMark score distributions, you see a bimodal distribution because it mixes the 10 W (MacBook air) and 15W (MacBook Pro) configurations.

The 10W (MacBook Air) variant of the M1 achieves a median CPUMark score of ~14500. That's a lot better than the Intel CPU's 13453 at 29W. Now, if you limit the Intel CPU to a lower TDP by underclocking, the performance per watt can improve substantially (since the efficiency plummets when going for peak clock speeds), but it's still considerably behind the M1.

Re:KDE runs on the Apple M2 (with full GPU acceleration) by Kuinox on Saturday November 26, 2022 @09:50AM (#33753092)
10W is the typical TDP, not the max TDP of the M1 chip. AFAIK M1 chip does not specify max TDP, which can go higher than the max TDP listed than the i7.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performanc...

Re:KDE runs on the Apple M2 (with full GPU acceleration) by nextos on Friday November 25, 2022 @06:57PM (#33748316)
Yes, but not in terms of heat and battery. What fanless laptop do you suggest with similar specs to a MacBook Air M1?

The best think I have found that runs Linux reasonably well (still with lots of caveats) is the X13s. And I cannot get a decent price.

Re:KDE runs on the Apple M2 (with full GPU acceleration) by Kuinox on Friday November 25, 2022 @07:07PM (#33748378)
Heat and battery is directly tied to the performance per watt.

With equally performing software, the one with the best performance per watt will be run cooler and longer.

The graph I sent is not raw performance, but performance per watt.

Re:KDE runs on the Apple M2 (with full GPU acceleration) by nextos on Friday November 25, 2022 @07:17PM (#33748441)
Sure, but in practical terms are there any laptop makers that sell any CPU from that list, say a i3-1210U, in a good case and with good cooling?

Because, as I said in the original post, even when Apple was selling Core 2 Duos, their cooling was better than most other manufacturers. I was often buying Macs to run Linux because of this.

Re:KDE runs on the Apple M2 (with full GPU acceleration) by wokkel on Friday November 25, 2022 @07:16PM (#33748432)
Nobody wanted an arm laptop because it doesn't run windows/existing software. Apple bundles an is and a decent emulator for old software. If they didn't nobody would want it.
Re:KDE runs on the Apple M2 (with full GPU acceleration) by Kuinox on Saturday November 26, 2022 @09:53AM (#33753116)
There was ARM surface laptops existing before M1 macs. It run existing software except x64 apps sadly. Windows phone, was windown on ARM.

People didn't liked ARM windows laptop, first because the performance was crap, then because the poor compatibility.