Re:Germany Forces a Microsoft 365 Ban Due to Privacy Concerns
by dijit on Friday November 25, 2022 @08:40AM
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> Why the teams hate.
This comes up all the time, to the point where I think people are running different versions of Teams. I would be interested in exploring that angle tbh-
For me:
* The client is "heavy" when compared to contemporaries
* Web version only works with Chrome. Firefox, Qutebrowser, Safari have severe limitations.
* Notifications are absent or overly-verbose
* UI design leaves a lot to be desired, things are all over the place, finding thins is hard.
* New UI refresh is "top heavy"; lots of elements in the top bar which makes people appear to be looking down on their screen for no reason. This is the only video conferencing program to do this.
* Video quality is very low compared to contemporaries.
* Screen Sharing lacks basic features too
* Whiteboards are some kind of extra application which has to be enabled
* Having external people invited still requires you to manually allow them into the room (unlike Google Meet)
* "Teams" are linked to Sharepoint and will cause Chaos with Onedrive and Sharepoint if you don't remember certain things: like uploading something to a channel will drop it in a weird folder with open permissions, or that "private teams" make brand new sharepoint sites: your org probably has hundreds of these.
* The Client randomly hangs on my machine (freeze, blocking all incoming and outgoing audio/video)
* the latency in audio is at least 3-5x higher than contemporaries
* when attempting to launch a meeting in a hurry, it's almost as if teams knows and spends 30s loading. I suspect there is some "Join now" function for a meeting in progress that is actually causing an adverse affect here as I've been able to repeatedly measure this problem.
I suspect that some of these issues are because I'm in Europe and the servers are hosted in the US. It could also be because I use Linux and MacOS.
I often also find that _people who like Teams_, have only really used other Microsoft collaboration tools in a professional setting. (Or worse ones that are known to be worse like AT&T Connect.)
> I personally find it the best conferencing tool for recurring cadence
"Best" is so insanely subjective that it's difficult to answer this.
Audio/Video Quality and ergonomics are better with Google Meet: but Jitsi works absolutely fine on recurring meetings: you just put the link in the meeting request.
This comes up all the time, to the point where I think people are running different versions of Teams. I would be interested in exploring that angle tbh-
For me:
* The client is "heavy" when compared to contemporaries
* Web version only works with Chrome. Firefox, Qutebrowser, Safari have severe limitations.
* Notifications are absent or overly-verbose
* UI design leaves a lot to be desired, things are all over the place, finding thins is hard.
* New UI refresh is "top heavy"; lots of elements in the top bar which makes people appear to be looking down on their screen for no reason. This is the only video conferencing program to do this.
* Video quality is very low compared to contemporaries.
* Screen Sharing lacks basic features too
* Whiteboards are some kind of extra application which has to be enabled
* Having external people invited still requires you to manually allow them into the room (unlike Google Meet)
* "Teams" are linked to Sharepoint and will cause Chaos with Onedrive and Sharepoint if you don't remember certain things: like uploading something to a channel will drop it in a weird folder with open permissions, or that "private teams" make brand new sharepoint sites: your org probably has hundreds of these.
* The Client randomly hangs on my machine (freeze, blocking all incoming and outgoing audio/video)
* the latency in audio is at least 3-5x higher than contemporaries
* when attempting to launch a meeting in a hurry, it's almost as if teams knows and spends 30s loading. I suspect there is some "Join now" function for a meeting in progress that is actually causing an adverse affect here as I've been able to repeatedly measure this problem.
I suspect that some of these issues are because I'm in Europe and the servers are hosted in the US. It could also be because I use Linux and MacOS.
I often also find that _people who like Teams_, have only really used other Microsoft collaboration tools in a professional setting. (Or worse ones that are known to be worse like AT&T Connect.)
> I personally find it the best conferencing tool for recurring cadence
"Best" is so insanely subjective that it's difficult to answer this.
Audio/Video Quality and ergonomics are better with Google Meet: but Jitsi works absolutely fine on recurring meetings: you just put the link in the meeting request.