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Re:Ask HN: Is it just me? by echelon on Thursday November 24, 2022 @04:47PM (#33736587)
> Most people move every two years

In SF. In Atlanta we have 90+% retention at a five year mark.

Re:Ask HN: Is it just me? by dilyevsky on Thursday November 24, 2022 @05:16PM (#33736854)
The whole point of staying in sfba rat race (at least to me) is getting exposed to a lot of different things working with a lot of different people/companies
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me? by echelon on Thursday November 24, 2022 @05:31PM (#33736986)
I got to have a lot of internal transfers to further my learning.

I got to build active-active systems that handled user sessions and core business APIs to the tune of 80,000+ queries per second. Caching layers, hand-optimized replication, eventual consistency algorithms, etc. Outages would cost millions of dollars an hour.

I worked on one of the teams responsible for building a migration path from on-prem to cloud, getting workloads from bespoke containerization onto k8s, securing clusters, and developing automation around CI/CD.

I joined an ML team to build product, did various frontend work, maintained important developer platform pieces... It's hard to enumerate it all.

You can have a full tour of tech inside most big companies. And you can continue getting promoted and working up the comp ladder.

Re:Ask HN: Is it just me? by dilyevsky on Thursday November 24, 2022 @05:37PM (#33737036)
That’s same thing that OP is doing except without associated pay raise bc you’re trapped within one company. A lot of people move projects every 2 years at faangs. I don’t much difference between that and switching companies entirely personally
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me? by echelon on Thursday November 24, 2022 @06:17PM (#33737302)
If you know more of a company's stack, you're worth more to them [1].

I was getting $400-$500k total comp in Atlanta. None of us were seeing a compelling reason to leave, at least anecdotally in our limited sample size observations.

In any case, I left to pursue my own startup ambitions. I added one to the count.

[1] Granted, some problems require fresh blood, new ideas, killing internal weirdware, questioning assumptions, new domain experts, new leadership, etc.

Re:Ask HN: Is it just me? by nielsole on Thursday November 24, 2022 @05:05PM (#33736752)
That's less attrition than I would expect from retirement alone (falsely assuming age was equally distributed) 90%+ doesn't seem plausible
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me? by echelon on Thursday November 24, 2022 @05:22PM (#33736907)
It's factual.

If I had to guess, most folks at my last office were between the ages of 20 and 45. We only saw one retirement during my tenure. A few folks left to a local startup and did far worse than when our company IPO'd and 100x'd our options. I could name everyone that left and count them on my fingers.

We collectively maintained a spreadsheet of Atlanta hiring dates and frequently compared our seniority against our colleagues based in SF. Most of us were in the top 5%, according to an internal employee registry API that could tell you your seniority rank.