Re:Some things never leave you – Christian Livermore on poverty
by josephcsible on Thursday November 24, 2022 @02:47PM
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> Having cable TV gives you access to unlimited entertainment.
So does having Internet access, and I don't think very many people pay for cable TV but not Internet.
> A smartphone gives you access to all known human knowledge, and is essentially required now to access benefits, banking, etc.
GP said "an unnecessarily expensive new phone", not "a smartphone". A $160 Samsung Galaxy A03s is perfectly capable of doing all of the things you mentioned. If you're having trouble making ends meet, there is zero excuse to ever buy the new $1000 iPhone.
Re:Some things never leave you – Christian Livermore on poverty
by orev on Thursday November 24, 2022 @09:31PM
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Which I already addressed, and then expanded on the bigger point that’s often being made by this line of thinking:
> While there are definitely elements of spending badly, this idea that they spend money on the “wrong” things gets dangerously close to dehumanizing the impoverished.
Re:Some things never leave you – Christian Livermore on poverty
by josephcsible on Thursday November 24, 2022 @10:06PM
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How is that dangerously close to dehumanizing?
While there are definitely elements of spending badly, this idea that they spend money on the “wrong” things gets dangerously close to dehumanizing the impoverished. Those people are still people, and they like to have the joys and feel included in society like everyone else. There’s a huge mental health aspect to that which can mean the difference between being motivated to change your situation vs just accepting it.
Having cable TV gives you access to unlimited entertainment. A smartphone gives you access to all known human knowledge, and is essentially required now to access benefits, banking, etc. Dogs are widely recognized as being one of the most beneficial things to help with general mood and mental health.
The decisions people are making are rational, their just not aimed at the goal you think they should be aiming for (getting out of poverty).