What's really behind Twitter's staff exodus

Re:What's really behind Twitter's staff exodus by paganel on Tuesday December 20, 2011 @06:04AM (#3372987)

I've just read the girl's story on her blog, and I know I may sound as a rapist-apologist or something, but frankly I don't care: she was just plain stupid by getting drunk in front of all those guys, performing dances wearing a short skirt and "sitting on laps". I didn't say "she asked for it", I'm just saying "she was stupid". Of course that Twitter guy is in all honesty a jerk (as was Bill Clinton or Dominique Strauss-Kahn and lots of other very bright men, intellectually speaking), but if this girl cares about her "safety" and all that she shouldn't play the role of Little Red Riding Hood in the land of horny, drunk and sexual deprived techies.

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Re:What's really behind Twitter's staff exodus by peteretep on Tuesday December 20, 2011 @07:09AM (#3373120)

For it to be 'stupid', you imply there's not a reasonable assumption on her part that she can't get a bit drunk around people without being assaulted.

If you were at a party where you didn't know everyone, and had had a couple of beers, and someone beat the living shit out of you in the toilet and stole your wallet, have you been stupid?

I'm assuming you don't think you've been stupid in that situation, so what's the difference?

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Re:What's really behind Twitter's staff exodus by paganel on Tuesday December 20, 2011 @07:23AM (#3373156)

The discussion if already OT :), but anyway, I'll put it more like "me getting ass-drunk at a party and leaving for home on foot through a very bad neighborhood", then I would certainly expect to be assaulted for my wallet.

And yes, I do think there's no difference between a bunch of drunk, sexually-deprived "strangers" partying in a hotel-room at 3 AM at a tech-conference and a couple of thugs looking for your wallet. Lots of people assume (like this girl does) that if you've got more of an education then suddenly you're inner instincts (good or bad) suddenly change also, but this is not the truth.

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Re:What's really behind Twitter's staff exodus by peteretep on Tuesday December 20, 2011 @07:35AM (#3373191)

So I think in there is the crux of this, which is that she (and I, and apparently lots of other commentators) don't equate a bit of flirting and a short skirt while slightly inebriated with getting yourself "ass-drunk at a party and leaving for home on foot through a very bad neighborhood" in terms of inherent risk. And if tech conferences really do consistently provide that sort of risk profile, there is something deeply wrong going on.

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Re:What's really behind Twitter's staff exodus by danssig on Tuesday December 20, 2011 @07:54AM (#3373243)

Actually I just read it too and I have to say you're off base here. I don't like girls who "tease" and I think getting drunk, having sex and then decided after the fact that they didn't want to and it was, therefor, rape should be a crime itself. But that's not what happened here. She was dancing, so what? She flirted with some guys. She sat in laps when there was no space to sit. That doesn't give guys the right to assault her, ffs.

You seem to be saying that a girl has to behave in a very restricted manner if there are socially retarded people around. If that's the case, why aren't such people put under mental health care? That's what we usually do with people who have mental issues that render them unable to deal with normal human interactions.

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