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Re:Japanese have been producing wood for 700 years without c... by qikInNdOutReply on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @03:14AM (#33716481)
The ancient japanese governments restricted the peasants from destroying the allmende. No hunting with weapons, only traps. No chopping down trees. Its the only way a society on a island with limitations can thrive.

This is a hack to circumvent the no lumbering rule. As far as im aware, similar rules never were applied in europe, just all things chopped down, and then some state forrests and macchia.

Re:Japanese have been producing wood for 700 years without c... by tpm on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @03:48AM (#33716681)
Certainly no hunting with weapons (no anything with weapons really) did apply in feudal Europe; the nobles were allowed to carry and use a weapon while the peasants were not. As for the trees, that was managed by the feudal owner of the land. Usually some forests were cut down early (between ca. 500-1300 AD) where arable land was under them, the rest was managed and used for construction and heating/cooking. Later many forests were completely cleared at the beginning of the industrial revolution to manufacture charcoal, used in many industrial processes. Some of them are now regrown.
Re:Japanese have been producing wood for 700 years without c... by qikInNdOutReply on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @04:03AM (#33716794)
Thats medieval northern europe, aka france, germany, england. The rest, the forrest was basically used up permanently during roman times.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macchie

Re:Japanese have been producing wood for 700 years without c... by tpm on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @04:51AM (#33717143)
Also Ireland, Czechia, Poland, Slovakia, parts of Hungary, Romania, Ukraine at least that I know of. But you are right, I thought of the Roman times immediately after finishing my comment.
Re:Japanese have been producing wood for 700 years without c... by actionfromafar on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @03:48AM (#33716684)
Oak forrests were very controlled in many European countries, for national security reasons. (Needed to make war ships.)
Re:Japanese have been producing wood for 700 years without c... by flanked-evergl on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:49AM (#33718022)
> allmende

Can't find this word in any English dictionary I checked, what does it mean?

Re:Japanese have been producing wood for 700 years without c... by pgh on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @07:17AM (#33718238)
It’s German meaning “commons" - communal lands.
Re:Japanese have been producing wood for 700 years without c... by spopejoy on Thursday November 24, 2022 @12:58PM (#33734255)
Alemania(SP)/Allemagne(FR) for Germany -- must be related??
Re:Japanese have been producing wood for 700 years without c... by pgh on Thursday November 24, 2022 @09:40PM (#33738590)
Similar etymology, I would suppose “All mans” https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamans
Re:Japanese have been producing wood for 700 years without c... by rastamutta on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @08:30AM (#33718861)
It sounds a lot like "allmänning", which means common land (obviously)