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Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System by rgmerk on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @08:39PM (#33714012)
If by “people” you mean “Americans”, they buy F-150s to go to the grocery store, and they vote out governments that threaten their ability to do so.

Taxing pollution, particularly consumer-facing taxes, has a long history of political failure, whereas subsidising clean technology has a long history of political and technical success.

Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System by waldothedog on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @11:39PM (#33715269)
*F-250
Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System by rjbwork on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @01:08AM (#33715800)
Saw an F-450 the other day... granted, it was at the gun range, but I was there in my compact hatchback and it had not a spec of dust on it.
Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System by maeil on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @01:50AM (#33716002)
It doesn't simply "have a long history of political failure"; it has a history of political failure in certain areas of the United States. In much of the rest of the developed world, e.g. nearly all of Western-Europe, it has a history of success and taxing cars based on fuel consumption and emissions has indeed caused buyers to gravitate towards more fuel-efficient cars.
Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System by WalterBright on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @02:01AM (#33716066)
Do they tax the rate of emissions, or the amount emitted? It's important to tax the latter.
Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System by maeil on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @03:11AM (#33716463)
Both. The former directly through taxes on the cars themselves and the latter indirectly through fuel taxes, which while imperfect works well as a proxy.
Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System by WalterBright on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @01:28PM (#33722807)
Fuel taxes work well for CO2 emissions, but not for other emissions, where the design of the ICE can reduce them dramatically.
Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System by rgmerk on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @03:39AM (#33716625)
Fair point, but the EU ETS took many, many years to have any serious effect as I understand it.
Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System by WalterBright on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @01:56AM (#33716039)
If we can have a sales tax, we can have pollution taxes.
Re:Decades of Air Pollution Undermine the Immune System by rgmerk on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @03:41AM (#33716639)
In the United States, you can't, at least at a federal level, nor across most of the red states.