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Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by wesapien on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @01:50PM (#33709460)
The people outside looking in has a clear vision of success that's why they will do everything to be able to migrate. It will still be an upgrade. The people inside have no other reference than their own so everything they lack the immigrant perspective.
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Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by dumpsterlid on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @02:00PM (#33709636)
The only difference between the poorest parts of the US and "3rd world countries" is that a (domestic) war upending peoples lives is less likely.

Otherwise? Poverty in the US gets intense real fast

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Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by medvezhenok on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @02:59PM (#33710588)
That is not the only difference. The fact that you can save and have a stable currency and stable rule of law matter a lot too. The U.S. has not experienced an episode of hyperinflation in the last 150 years - that's quite notable.

The U.S. certainly has issues and disparities and everything else. But it has vast vast benefits that you can only understand if you've lived somewhere else for a while.

That said, Europe probably does a better job at creating a more liveable society, at least since WWII.

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Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by jhgjjhgfjgfjh on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @06:08PM (#33712849)
This is completely false by almost any economic metric.
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Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by sershe on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @10:58AM (#33720838)
You clearly know absolutely nothing about poverty. You can just compare monetary numbers - median incomes in many countries are smaller than poverty line in the US.

But even by objective standards. I actually feel it for working poor, especially immigrants - they don't get much help because US welfare state is completely out of whack. But non-working poor with free healthcare because hospitals have to treat them, food stamps and tons of private food charity, section 8 and other housing help, etc.? By world standards they live in luxury and they deserve none of it.

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Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by dumpsterlid on Saturday November 26, 2022 @09:01PM (#33759295)
"By world standards they live in luxury and they deserve none of it."

What a disgusting thing to say

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Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by sershe on Sunday November 27, 2022 @10:40AM (#33763627)
"What a disgusting thing to say"

What a disgusting thing to say

Also: but is it true?

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Re:The Rise of the Non-Working Class by UncleOxidant on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @02:10PM (#33709809)
This is a good point. And a lot of what these people inside are fed as a means to success are scams or lotteries. It's easy to become disillusioned pretty quickly when those don't work out.
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