Re:Regulators OK largest dam demolition in history to restor...
by perrygeo on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @10:27AM
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The salmon populations has been dropping for a century and have reached critical levels in the last few decades. This is not a recent phenomemon. There are many causes and they are understood quite well: dams block spawning habitat, water temperature increases, food web collapse, overfishing, habitat destruction, and algae blooms from pollution are all extensively documented in the literature. Where do you get the idea that scientists are flummoxed by this?
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Re:Regulators OK largest dam demolition in history to restor...
by jablala on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @10:51AM
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So we're going to fix/build infra so we can get their population levels higher... Just so we can eat them.
What a sad world.
Re:Regulators OK largest dam demolition in history to restor...
by jhauris on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @11:05AM
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Not just us. Both terrestrial and ocean ecosystems depend on salmon.
Re:Regulators OK largest dam demolition in history to restor...
by the_doctah on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @04:50PM
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Is there a word for species-centrism? Ah, there is. [1]
My point being, this is probably more about food for wildlife than humans.
Re:Regulators OK largest dam demolition in history to restor...
by onlyrealcuzzo on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @11:17AM
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Aren't people eating a lot more salmon now?
I imagine that has something to do with there being less salmon...
Re:Regulators OK largest dam demolition in history to restor...
by pvaldes on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @12:26PM
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Yes and not. Most of it is cultured salmon. Cultured and wild are linked so in part we could say that "there is less wild salmon because people eat more domestic salmon". Is complicated.
Re:Regulators OK largest dam demolition in history to restor...
by ROTMetro on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @04:56PM
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They aren't understood well though, are they? I mean they JUST discovered the HUGE impact that tire wear runoff from roads causes to fish:
https://www.science.org/content/article/common-tire-chemical....
Re:Regulators OK largest dam demolition in history to restor...
by coryrc on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @07:25PM
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How much are each of those contributing? They don't know. They can't make any predictions about what effect changes will have. The link between temperature and fish numbers didn't pan out a few years ago here in the PNW when water temperatures were higher but we had a boom year in salmon numbers.
If it's really serious let's get the gill nets out of the rivers and let the numbers rebound. But that's never on the table; just taxpayer's billions for destruction of carbon-free electricity.