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Re:Basics of Concrete Barriers by giraffe_lady on Monday November 21, 2022 @10:44PM (#33701548)
Same argument works for banning pedestrians from streets that cars use though. What kind of world are we trying to make here.
Re:Basics of Concrete Barriers by philwelch on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @12:24AM (#33702331)
We do ban pedestrians from the streets; that’s what sidewalks are for.
Re:Basics of Concrete Barriers by frosted-flakes on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @12:47AM (#33702489)
Sidewalks don't mean you're not allowed to walk on the street. Streets are for everyone, including cyclists and pedestrians.
Re:Basics of Concrete Barriers by shepherdjerred on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @01:50AM (#33702866)
Re:Basics of Concrete Barriers by giraffe_lady on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @10:51AM (#33707045)
Could link to a lot of american perversions if you wanted to but that's a very narrow "we."
Re:Basics of Concrete Barriers by philwelch on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @11:21AM (#33707450)
TFA is published by the US Department of Transportation.
Re:Basics of Concrete Barriers by giraffe_lady on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @11:42AM (#33707727)
My point was more that "things that americans do", "things that everyone does", and "things we should be doing" is a venn diagram with a very small center when it comes to car use.
Re:Basics of Concrete Barriers by philwelch on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @10:06PM (#33714659)
When I used the word “we”, I was talking about the US. I don’t believe in a global “we”. You live in a country where pedestrians are allowed to walk out onto the same street where cars go, and I live in a country where they aren’t. And apparently, we are both happy with how our respective countries do things. And that’s fine; I’m happy that you’re happy with your country’s laws and customs and I wouldn’t want to impose my country’s laws and customs on anyone else.
Re:Basics of Concrete Barriers by shepherdjerred on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @06:23PM (#33712981)
There are plenty of other countries on that page with similar laws.

> In Zimbabwe, jaywalking is illegal, as per the traffic laws gazetted in 2013 by the Ministry of Transport and Infrastructure Development.

> In recent years, jaywalking has become more strictly controlled in China as car traffic increased. Police have tested facial recognition to identify jaywalkers.

Italy:

> Pedestrians are allowed to cross a street without any recognised crossing point only if there are no zebra crossings within a range of 100 m

Re:Basics of Concrete Barriers by giraffe_lady on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @10:26AM (#33706767)
Not all streets have sidewalks but you can still walk on them....