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Re:MITx positions to offer certification for completing cour... by crx on Monday December 19, 2011 @09:53AM (#3369748)
I created an account just to upvote you.

This is a very brave step in the right direction. In the long run they can NOT justify to give those remote learners not a "real" MIT degree (and I am sure they know this).

Re:MITx positions to offer certification for completing cour... by Anechoic on Monday December 19, 2011 @12:46PM (#3370345)
In the long run they can NOT justify to give those remote learners not a "real" MIT degree (and I am sure they know this).

The remote learner won't be getting the same experience as the residential learner. If nothing else, the remote leaner will be missing out on the lab work (remember "Mens et Manus") which is just as important as the academic work. As an MIT ME my lab work involved transducer work (accelerometers, strain gauges, microphones, LVDTs, DAQs, filters, etc) and manufacturing processes (CAD/CAM, injection molding, welding, machine shop, vacuum forming, CNC, etc) and actually having hands-on experience greatly assisted in my understanding of the academic work - for example, it's one thing to look at the calculations for plastic shrinkage, it's another thing to actually see how shrinkage can vary in your freshly-injection molded part, especially when the dyes used for color can affect shrinkage rates.

Re:MITx positions to offer certification for completing cour... by SiVal on Monday December 19, 2011 @03:18PM (#3370968)
They can handle this. As I said, the key is to keep standards high. You don't have to do your bachelor's degree at MIT to get an MIT PhD, so MIT already considers lab work done at many other institutions sufficient to fulfill certain MIT prerequisites. They probably also accept transfer credits from other schools under various circumstances toward a B.S. They can join with Stanford, Caltech, Cambridge (UK), etc., and build on this foundation.
Re:MITx positions to offer certification for completing cour... by ap22213 on Monday December 19, 2011 @01:06PM (#3370420)
Yes, true, but I'd bet that a lot of that could be outsourced to 3rd party regional or urban lab centers.
Re:MITx positions to offer certification for completing cour... by Anechoic on Monday December 19, 2011 @01:11PM (#3370440)
At that point you may as well just attend your local community college or state institution.
Re:MITx positions to offer certification for completing cour... by amirmc on Monday December 19, 2011 @10:17AM (#3369829)
> In the long run they can NOT justify to give those remote learners not a "real" MIT degree

Why can't they justify it? If the deal is MIT degrees for residential students and 'distance' degrees from an MIT subsidiary, that's just fine.

Edit: It's trivial to argue that a 'real' MIT degree includes the experience of being resident and directly interacting with profs and other students.

Re:MITx positions to offer certification for completing cour... by moonchrome on Monday December 19, 2011 @10:23AM (#3369849)
Sure they can, but if the students that receive MITx accreditation match the standards of certified MIT students then ideally there shouldn't be much difference, it will just take the job market a while to recognize this.
Re:MITx positions to offer certification for completing cour... by amirmc on Monday December 19, 2011 @10:26AM (#3369859)
The interesting thing is that no matter what they decide to call the awarding entity, people will always refer to it as MITx (or some related moniker).