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Re:Disney Shocker Bob Iger Back as CEO, Bob Chapek Out by mrguyorama on Monday November 21, 2022 @03:09PM (#33697259)
I dislike the marvel movies for the same reason I dislike comic books: The focus is on making sure there is a next episode in the series, which means status quo above all else. This prevents pretty much anything interesting from happening, because significant changes have to be reverted, or previously interesting stories in the extended universe become retconned when a big budget version is made that removes any interesting elements and replaces it with generic action for "mainstream" audiences.

It's remarkable that the most controversial thing disney has done in decades is making main characters not white.

For example, in star wars, instead of doing something interesting or different, they just magicked the "first order" or whatever into existence so they could have big bad empire again, before eventually just saying "fuck it palpatine is back". They also took a back story that was left untold (getting the death star plans), rejected the expanded universe version that was about a usually ignored population having a big impact and sacrificing much for the good of the universe, and replaced it with a super generic "one important ideologically pure character plus one clearly ideologically evil villain" story with basic action.

Meanwhile in the marvel universe, they've adapted the comic book tactic of saying "multiverse and time travel and alternate realities exist" because then they can keep using popular avatar characters. This of course also means nothing freaking matters, because you can literally retcon in universe. It's so boring, nothing matters.

Re:Disney Shocker Bob Iger Back as CEO, Bob Chapek Out by dagw on Monday November 21, 2022 @03:18PM (#33697378)
For example, in star wars, instead of doing something interesting or different

While I agree with everything you said as such, the Andor TV show (and Rogue One to lesser extent) indicates that they are at least capable of doing interesting things in the Star Wars universe, beyond Good space wizard vs Evil space wizard. I fear however that most fans don't actually want that and that Andor will be an aberration.

Re:Disney Shocker Bob Iger Back as CEO, Bob Chapek Out by cykros on Thursday November 24, 2022 @09:56AM (#33731966)
Vertigo comic books, in my experience, are a lot less guilty of this than Marvel, or even the classic DC variant. But then, Vertigo is specifically geared toward adults.

Kids will, if left to their own devices, watch the same movie over and over again (my VHS copy of Land Before Time just about wore out by the time I was 6). Producers realize this, so they just reshuffle the same story over and over again and sell it to them, over, and over, and over again. Adults tend not to be quite so easy to amuse.