I almost added a carve out for "unless it's some Miata-esque" lightweight roadster. But on the other hand I guess the Caymen and Boxster are pretty fat these days.

And they should.

> And they should.

Nah, even the Porsche Cayman is more prestigious than the Tesla Plaid.

At drag strips, yes. But there have always been faster straight-line cars.

The EQE weighs 5300lbs. The EQS weighs 6200lbs. It is amazing and impressive how quickly they can accelerate, but inertia is still a thing and those things are not going to be even remotely nimble.

By comparison, the 911 at its heaviest (AWD, convertible) is 3800lbs. A porker for sure, but most configs are closer to 3400lbs.

And a Porsche Cayman weighs between 3000 - 3200lbs depending on trim.

Unless/until batteries get a lot lighter, even heavy GTs don’t have a lot to be nervous about in the fun-to-drive category.

With EVs that 500+ hp fun ends 15 minutes later with a break to recharge. That's pretty much useless in any case.

A fun EV would first of all be non-SUV but low air drag, non-luxury, non anything that's not needed to move. But even that would only provide higher possible cruising speeds compared to other EVs, but still inferior to ICEs.

Yeah, two dimensions there: useful time at high power, and cornering ability / agility.

Time isn’t a huge concern to me at least. Typical sports cars get maybe 50-100 miles on a tank of gas at a track day, and breaks are nice anyway. Even spirited driving on mountain roads isn’t nearly that tough; you can’t use 500hp all that often.

But that weight…. Ugh. I’m interested to see the new Tesla roadster, but it’s probably still >4000lbs. And weight just takes the fun out of anything.