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Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by siftrics on Monday November 21, 2022 @03:03AM (#33690048)
Stablecoins pegged to the dollar and various other currencies of the "real world" have existed for many years now. Stop acting in bad faith.
Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by codetrotter on Monday November 21, 2022 @03:23AM (#33690187)
Until the peg is lost, like what happened with UST (now USTC).

https://jumpcrypto.com/the-depegging-of-ust/

That coin was supposed to be pegged to $1 USD.

Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by Zanfa on Monday November 21, 2022 @03:23AM (#33690177)
With the number of collapsed stablecoins this year and the biggest one of them all being a complete fraud, I'm not sure they're any safer. Also, every fiat-backed stablecoin is by definition 100% centralized to a single legal entity.
Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by siftrics on Monday November 21, 2022 @03:43AM (#33690301)
What is your point?

My point is anyone with an internet connection can give their savings 100% exposure to any centralized fiat currency, _if they so choose._

I'm not saying you should or you have to. I'm just saying this gives people the option to do that. What's bad about that? What's wrong with that? Should only US citizens be allowed to save US dollars?

Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by josefx on Monday November 21, 2022 @03:32AM (#33690230)
You mean like Terra (Classic) which went from being $1 to being $0?
Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by siftrics on Monday November 21, 2022 @03:46AM (#33690321)
Yes, Terra had quite insane ponzinomics. But that is a poor argument against what stablecoins could be.

Why are you arguing against letting anyone with an internet connection save US dollars? Should only US citizens be allowed to save US dollars? Why should we prevent humans from having that option?

Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by josefx on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:04AM (#33690433)
> But that is a poor argument against what stablecoins could be.

Why did the argument suddenly switch from "have been for years" to "theoretically there could exist a stable coin that isn't outright fraud"? Is the reason that you can't think of a single example that is actually trust worthy?

Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by everfree on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:16AM (#33690520)
> you can't think of a single example that is actually trust worthy

In addition to USDC, USDH, and DAI, we've also got GUSD, RAI, LUSD, and USDP in terms of trustworthy stablecoins.

All of them are audited in reputable ways, either by large accounting firms or directly on-chain by cryptography:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31381864

Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by josefx on Monday November 21, 2022 @02:58PM (#33697128)
> All of them are audited

USDC decided to remove guarantees from its site and invest its reserves as it saw fit without any guarantees or limitations on risk in 2021 before returning to form several months later. This happened despite the reserves being subjected to attestations every month. So it might be a good idea to start a list of trust worthy stable coins with just about anything else, especially if you want to give the impression that the attestations are actually worth the paper they are printed on.

Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by siftrics on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:09AM (#33690474)
USDC, USDH, DAI, the list goes on
Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by everfree on Monday November 21, 2022 @03:43AM (#33690300)
I like how as soon as you mention stablecoins, everyone starts replying with the most god-awful trash examples of shady stablecoins they can think of, as if those cherry-picked dumpster fires represent the best that stablecoins can and will ever be able to offer.
Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by FridgeSeal on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:12AM (#33690502)
Yeah and we’ve seen how well they’re going.
Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by jjslocum3 on Monday November 21, 2022 @10:58AM (#33693985)
Which begs the question, why not just use Dollars?
Re:Having a safe CEX: proof of solvency and beyond by siftrics on Monday November 21, 2022 @11:39AM (#33694544)
Because in many countries throughout the world it is illegal to save and spend US dollars.

Or you can do it, but suffer extortionist fees.

Classic first-worlder, thinking corrupt, authoritarian regimes which arbitrarily seize assets and cut off access to basic financial services do not exist.