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Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by stef25 on Monday December 19, 2011 @03:31AM (#3368967)
"All it takes is for someone who knows someone who knows someone to help them"

Not so sure. I've tried explaining bittorent to several non nerd friends and they all say "oh I'll just watch it streaming".

Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by cheald on Monday December 19, 2011 @07:26AM (#3369422)
I think that's a pretty strong argument in favor of piracy being a distribution problem that's solvable by better legitimate infrastructure. People take the path of least resistance. iTunes, Netflix, and Steam are all wildly successful because they've made it painless to obtain music, movies, and games - enough so that people use and prefer them over mechanisms that let them pirate the same content for free.
Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by mooki on Monday December 19, 2011 @10:32AM (#3369886)
A decade ago - ALL my friends were using direct connect. Few of them were nerds, most were barely computer literate. But free movies made them motivated enough to learn. Some even ran their own hubs even though they had no interest in computers otherwise.

Things like this spread fast, especially among young people. The reason people stick with streams today is because they have no motivation to learn anything else.

Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by ghshephard on Monday December 19, 2011 @02:01PM (#3370670)
mooki - If you do a survey, you'll find that maybe 1 in a hundred people have even heard of direct connect. It may be the case that all of your friends were using it - but in the scale of 250 million americans, I would be shocked to discover that more than 2.5 million of them indicated they had used Direct Connect to share a movie.

The RIAA/MPA and friends are concerned about the 247.5 million people - less concerned about the 2.5 million people.

It's why Usenet basically contains every single media property of interest - the decent search engines for it are pretty much buried in the blacknet, and will stay there, out of sight of the 99%.

Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by fauigerzigerk on Monday December 19, 2011 @08:28AM (#3369528)
Streaming is simpler and the legal implications are a lot less dramatic, so why would anyone use bittorrent if given the choice?
Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by ghshephard on Monday December 19, 2011 @02:03PM (#3370677)
Everything is available on the torrents/usenet. Everything. Not everything is available through streaming (or even for sale)

Try and purchase Game of Thrones. I spent 20 minutes looking for a mechanism I could purchase it - no luck.

Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by redrobot5050 on Monday December 19, 2011 @02:58PM (#3370892)
Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by binarysolo on Monday December 19, 2011 @03:02PM (#3370901)
I think he meant videos, which are on preorder and will only be released in March?

http://www.amazon.com/Game-Thrones-Complete-First-Season/dp/...

Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by fauigerzigerk on Monday December 19, 2011 @02:53PM (#3370873)
I know. That's why I said "given the choice".
Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by rmc on Monday December 19, 2011 @06:57AM (#3369356)
Right now "Feh! forget torrent, i'll stream it instead" is probably a decent way. If laws like this pass, and you can't stream it, then people will learn about bittorrent
Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by Random_Person on Monday December 19, 2011 @09:33AM (#3369691)
Bittorrent takes effort.

All this will take is a Facebook post of "Hey, install this plug-in and you can access all the things!" and suddenly the 99% are on board.

Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by pflats on Monday December 19, 2011 @11:18AM (#3370055)
Sounds like they already have an easy, legal alternative. Which most people seem to agree is the best way to beat piracy.

That said, if you don't think there's going to be an installer/.reg file/some easy fire and forget way to switch a computer's DNS to an uncensored one for techies to send to their friends, you're being shortsighted.

Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by sirclueless on Monday December 19, 2011 @04:14AM (#3369049)
Do you mean like one of the sites that has the file on a server somewhere in Sweden and lets you watch in crappy quality in a flash player? Or do they mean Netflix or something. If the former, then this legislation might be effective to stop them. If the latter, then they have the economic means to pay for convenience, which is the whole point of SOPA: make piracy inconvenient.
Re:Reddit admin: "If SOPA passes it would almost certainly m... by stef25 on Wednesday December 21, 2011 @07:59AM (#3377358)
No I mean watching it on Megavideo (where you have to reboot your router every x min, watch it in small crappy format). Somehow "google a torrent file, download that file if it has enough seeds, open it with the torrent client and when it's done it will be in this folder on your hard drive", is too complicated.