Re:UK food price inflation hit 16.2% in October – cost of fo...
by kergonath on Sunday November 20, 2022 @12:01PM
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> Blaming “Toryism” is pretty odd. You think the economic problems affecting the UK started in the last decade?
New Labour was a short interlude. No, the problems did not start this decade. You can see the roots in the 1980s, when London was more or less set up as Europe’s financial district at the expense of the rest of the country. Of course, some roots run even deeper, like the Empire thing and the whole class structure.
> To me this seems to be the product of Blair-era Labour, which gutted the country by shipping jobs and industrial capacity to Eastern Europe and China.
They did not help, true (and the Iraq war was much worse in terms of consequences, it killed any alternative to the conservatives for a decade and amplified the divisions without the Labour Party). But it’s disingenuous to blame them for the country’s de-industrialisation.
> Populist nationalism is rising throughout the western world. It’s a reaction to the failings of globalist liberalism, not the cause of those problems.
Populist nationalism is really not a new thing, it’s a tool that is used quite regularly. What’s almost unique to the UK and the US is how it corrupted a mainstream party, thus creeping into the heart of government. True, it’s worse in Hungary and Poland (and Russia), but that’s not setting the bar very high.
New Labour was a short interlude. No, the problems did not start this decade. You can see the roots in the 1980s, when London was more or less set up as Europe’s financial district at the expense of the rest of the country. Of course, some roots run even deeper, like the Empire thing and the whole class structure.
> To me this seems to be the product of Blair-era Labour, which gutted the country by shipping jobs and industrial capacity to Eastern Europe and China.
They did not help, true (and the Iraq war was much worse in terms of consequences, it killed any alternative to the conservatives for a decade and amplified the divisions without the Labour Party). But it’s disingenuous to blame them for the country’s de-industrialisation.
> Populist nationalism is rising throughout the western world. It’s a reaction to the failings of globalist liberalism, not the cause of those problems.
Populist nationalism is really not a new thing, it’s a tool that is used quite regularly. What’s almost unique to the UK and the US is how it corrupted a mainstream party, thus creeping into the heart of government. True, it’s worse in Hungary and Poland (and Russia), but that’s not setting the bar very high.