Re:Show HN: A Browser-Based First Programming Language – Eas...
by johnisgood on Saturday November 19, 2022 @10:56AM
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I did not mean to say that it is not in the documentation... What I am saying is that it is not intuitive at all, and it has to be documented for anyone, not just for "beginners to programming" to know. The reason I am saying this is that "counter-intuitive" and "not intuitive" is often mentioned as a reason for the language being more beginner-friendly.
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Re:Show HN: A Browser-Based First Programming Language – Eas...
by Jtsummers on Saturday November 19, 2022 @11:17AM
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To be fair, most of programming is not intuitive.
i = 20
# ... some lines later (not modifying i)
for i in range(10): # non-intuitive for many - range goes from 0 to 9
print(i)
# ... some lines later (not modifying i)
print(i) # what value should be printed here?
Or a subtle (and hard to spot when not isolated like this) one character difference creating a behavior change: i := 20
for i := 0; i < 10; i++ {
fmt.Println(i)
}
fmt.Println(i)
i := 20
for i = 0; i < 10; i++ {
fmt.Println(i)
}
fmt.Println(i)
And that's with a primitive part of programming. There is no language whose behavior can be fully intuited by all people, beginner or not. Some things will have to be taught or read through documentation and examples.