I'm not a Musk fan these days, but I have to admit that he did create things of value. Cheap transport to orbit, some pivotal electric cars. Sure, he promised more, but at least he delivered something of value.

The full self driving claim, that one could be fraudulent.

As for the vision to go to Mars? Might still be achievable, and I don't think he had customers pay for that yet.

In contrast, neither FTX nor Theranos created lasting value.