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Re:The stick shift might survive the electric revolution by smileysteve on Saturday November 19, 2022 @07:56AM (#33669677)
It's the difference in 8 speed and 5-6. Though the automatic still has some loss in a torque converter.

Historical higher mpg in a manual 5 and 6 speeds is due to driving style, 1st, the driver is more likely to drive based on what's ahead; 2nd (and related) the manual driver is likely more conservative in everyday driving.

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Re:The stick shift might survive the electric revolution by WirelessGigabit on Saturday November 19, 2022 @10:40AM (#33671109)
The ZF-8 has a lock up clutch. That's why it's so efficient. It uses the torque converter as a pump to match the speeds but then engages that clutch to have a 1-1 connection. No losses.
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