Re:Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over ...
by bearcobra on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:24PM
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I really hope the world can accelerate it's adoption of energy sources that will replace oil. They aren't without their own flaws but besides Norway, I can't think of place where oil hasn't corrupted society in some major way.
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Re:Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over ...
by mcculley on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:31PM
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I am not optimistic that there will not be some other resource or reason for which governments will eschew principles.
Re:Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over ...
by scottLobster on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:45PM
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Just wait until The Saudis figure out that they're a desert, and maybe instead of stupid line cities they should be building solar farms and long-range international transmission lines.
Re:Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over ...
by arcturus17 on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:50PM
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Doubt they’d replace their current weight with that… If what you say becomes technically feasible, there will be plenty of other countries competing with them, including their neighbors and Africa.
Re:Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over ...
by scottLobster on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:10PM
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But none with trillions of investment capital sitting around. Building a long-range renewable grid from scratch isn't easy. Morocco has a bit of a head start, but last I read they're still focusing on their domestic grid.
Re:Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over ...
by stepbeek on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:48PM
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iirc long range transfer of electricity is extremely expensive and difficult. They might be able to supply power locally, but they wouldn’t be able to export to the west. Unless they used it to power manufacture of other fuel sources like green hydrogen.
Re:Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over ...
by scottLobster on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:06PM
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According to wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_power_transmission#Lo...
"As of 1980, the longest cost-effective distance for DC transmission was 7,000 kilometres (4,300 miles). For AC it was 4,000 kilometres (2,500 miles), though US transmission lines are substantially shorter."
The distance from Saudi Arabia to Greece, by road, is roughly 2389 km according to Google Maps (albeit passing through Jordan, Syria and Turkey). As the crow flies or using an undersea cable it would be even shorter, so a monumental project but it could be done. Would require striking a deal with the Jordanians and Israelis, but that's well with Saudi capabilities should they choose to do so.
Re:Mohammed bin Salman: Saudi leader given US immunity over ...
by ADHDthrow2323 on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:29PM
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I think the problem here is humans being (more easily) corruptible and capable of evil when lots of power and money are involved. I don't think oil specifically has something to do with it.
Although I agree with hoping we move on from depending on SA resources. (And I say this as a devout Muslim)