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Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by consp on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:16AM (#33655893)
I would argue carbon footprint (which is huge) or methane emissions.
Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by bbarnett on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:25AM (#33656029)
Both are only relevant if you grain feed, instead of allowing animals to graze on grass.

For example, let's say we remove cattle from the rolling, rocky hills of Quebec. We let the land go fallow, back to nature.

Ok, now endless deer, bison, moose, groundhogs, and endless other critters do a horrible thing. They eat, and they fart.

When people complain about meat, and carbon, they are complaining about the worst part of it.

Much of the world does not dump fertilizer on land, grow crop, and feed it to cattle.

It is very unfair to lump this all together, especially in a thread about people taking extreme positions.

Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by barbazoo on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:36AM (#33656216)
> only relevant if you grain feed, instead of allowing animals to graze on grass.

What's the percentage of grass fed vs grain? From a shallow search it seems like it's low single digits yet I see this argument come up a lot. Do you have different numbers perhaps?

Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by s0rce on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:28AM (#33656079)
Is that representative, there are areas in California where grazing was eliminated and they are not overrun with other grazing animals and beautiful meadows and creeks have begun to recover.
Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by danielbln on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:31AM (#33656133)
According to the National Council for Animal Protection, over 99% of beef farmed for meat comes from cows that live in horrific factory farm environments.

Does the remaining 1% matter all that much in the conversation?

Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by VBprogrammer on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:48AM (#33656430)
Would you expect the National Council for Animal Protection to give you an unbiased figure?

I struggle with the concept of feedlot farming being morally acceptable at all. However, I've been on a number of beef farms in the UK and it's just not representative of how British beef is raised.

Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by twobitshifter on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:49AM (#33656434)
does the national council for animal protection sound like they do independent research?
Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by cassianoleal on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:35AM (#33657206)
That number is probably true for the USA only. GP specifically said:

> Much of the world does not dump fertilizer on land, grow crop, and feed it to cattle.

Re:Red meat is not a health risk. New study slams years of s... by lm28469 on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:04AM (#33656697)
> Both are only relevant if you grain feed, instead of allowing animals to graze on grass.

Plot twist: the average US/EU diet can't be sustained on free range only meat/animal products.

In the US grass fed beef represent 4% of beef sold, and that's with a very loose definition of "grass fed"

https://agfundernews.com/grass-fed-beef-survey-story