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Re:The case against the Twitter apology and our culture of p... by i_am_proteus on Friday November 18, 2022 @08:44AM (#33654521)
Insincerity should be the expected outcome from bullying people via socioeconomic pressure into making public apologies.

Forcing someone to make a public statement via explicit or implicit threat of loss of income or ostracization is playground politics for adults.

Re:The case against the Twitter apology and our culture of p... by jmull on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:21AM (#33656974)
If you make your money based on how popular you are, you are going to lose money, one way or another, if you start pissing off lots of people.

Bullying and playground politics just isn't the right way to think about this.

Kyrie, e.g., put the economic pressure on himself. Nike sells shoes. They don't want to pay him anymore because he can't sell shoes nearly as well now, and might impact their ability to sell shoes long-term. Regarding the Nets and NBA, Kyrie's many million dollar contract isn't exactly for playing basketball. It's for his ability to get lots and lots of people to want to watch basketball. When he pissed off a lot of people he doesn't do that very well, and his value as a basketball player drops.

Re:The case against the Twitter apology and our culture of p... by yanderekko on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:35PM (#33661694)
Yes, and? Again, this is just an explanation of why one should expect insincere apologies - because the apology is being made for financial reasons, not genuine contrition.
Re:The case against the Twitter apology and our culture of p... by jmull on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:04PM (#33662164)
I don't disagree that insincere apologies usually don't work very well.

My point is that the "socioeconomic pressure" in many cases has nothing to do "bullying," "threats," or "playground politics". It can be self-inflicted: If you lower your value to the people who give you money, they will no longer want to give you as much money.

Re:The case against the Twitter apology and our culture of p... by savryn on Friday November 18, 2022 @08:50PM (#33665855)
Well if this take away from my spins // Which'll probably take away from my ends // Then I hope this take away from my sins
Re:The case against the Twitter apology and our culture of p... by anigbrowl on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:34PM (#33663495)
When I do it to you it's free speech, when you do it to me it's bullying.